00:00:29,239 S1: Good evening. Uh, I called to order the meeting of the Hamilton and Regional School Committee on Thursday, May 21st, 2026 at 7 p.m. and I'd like to remind everyone that this meeting is being recorded and live streamed on HW cam. Um, first order of business is an opportunity for citizens. Comments. Um, we'll have an opportunity both in person and on zoom. Uh, Eric, do we have anybody that's on zoom? 00:01:02,770 S2: We do. Not yet. Nobody yet. 00:01:04,969 S1: Um, so citizens comments are an opportunity for, um, any citizen who wishes to speak before the committee to, um, come and offer their thoughts. Um, if you do want to offer a comment, I ask you to please identify yourself and please spell your last name so that we can get it correct for the minutes. Um, I ask, uh, speakers to, um, keep your comments to three minutes. We will have a timer. Amy, are you willing to be the timer? Um. And Amy will let you know when you have about 30s left so that you can wrap up your comments by three minutes. Please know that the opportunities to citizens comments is an opportunity for us. The committee, um, to listen. Um, it's your opportunity to be heard and for our for us to listen. It's not a back and forth conversation. It's, um, your chance to be heard. Okay. That being said, if there's anyone in the room who would like to offer a citizen comment, I'd ask you to please approach the podium. 00:02:07,930 S1: Okay. Is there anyone on zoom? 00:02:10,770 S2: No. Okay. 00:02:12,370 S1: Seeing none, we will close the zoom and close citizens comments. Um. Next up we have a review of our a portion of our protocols, I think. Is that Julia, do you have some of that as. 00:02:29,050 S3: Elected members of the Hamilton Windham Regional School Committee, we, including the superintendent, accept the high honor and trust that has been placed in us to ensure that the students of the district receive the best education possible. To that end, we hereby commit to the following in the conduct of our business. A School Committee meeting is a business meeting that is held in public, not a public meeting. The committee will make every effort to ensure meetings are effective and efficient. 00:02:58,620 S1: Thank you. All right. I'm gonna just do this because I think I put this over here. 00:03:05,259 S2: Oh. 00:03:14,259 S1: Oh, sure. Okay. Um, I wouldn't have remembered which one it was otherwise. Um, and now a portion of the school committee mission statement. Kristen. 00:03:23,259 S4: The Hamilton Wenham Regional School District School Committee's mission is to ensure our schools create graduates with a passion for lifelong learning, together with the critical skills needed to maximize their potential. The Hamilton Wenham Regional School Committee will lead and inspire a district that supports and guides the superintendent to execute and achieve the approved 2025 2026 district goals. 00:03:49,340 S1: Thank you. 00:03:53,300 S1: Um, Okay. Next is to Eric for our superintendents report. 00:03:59,949 S2: Great. Thank you. Uh, lot going on as usual. This is, uh, the final week for seniors. Really? They're taking their final exams and wrapping up any overdue coursework, uh, things like that. Uh, tonight, they are probably right now at the cruise port for their prom. Uh, they got a great night for it. Great night for pictures and things. So that's that's nice. Uh, last night, was there a scholarship night? Um, another great event where our community really comes out for the kids. Gives, uh, lots of scholarships and varying amounts for various things. Some of them are specific to families, and others are for, uh, school specific schools that kids go to. So it's a it's a good opportunity, um, to connect the kids with the community. And then next week it is, uh, Tuesday is one of the more fun days, I I think, where seniors helping seniors are seniors who are graduating all head out into the community to help our senior citizens for the day. And there are all kinds of things like raking and mulching and weeding. And one point last year, I think somebody was putting an air conditioner in for somebody. Um, so lots of lots of good connections there. And then later on in the week, our annual, uh, candlelight, which is on Thursday evening and always a great event if you get a chance to come, please come. Uh, the candlelight ceremony is probably one of the more impressive things that happens through the year. And it's a really nice culminating event where there are a number of speeches, speeches by class officers and the candlelight speaker who gets chosen, uh, based on, uh, submission earlier in the year. And then there's a, a faculty candlelight speaker as well. Uh, so that'll be fun. And then Saturday we kick it off on the field with graduation at 10 a.m.. Um, I saw the field setup it's going to be. It's going to be fun. First time on the new fields for graduation. We're praying for 70 and sunny and keep it, uh, that let's keep it that easy. So lots going on. This is a this is a big couple of weeks for seniors and their families and our staff. So we're looking forward to uh, after that we got a few days countdown. 00:06:16,240 S1: Thank you. People have questions for the superintendent. 00:06:23,279 S1: Thank you. Um, next up, we have our student representative, Anderson Kraft. Um, to give us some updates on things going on in the district. 00:06:32,680 S5: Uh. Thank you. So, um, over the last month, many students across the high school have spent time taking the AP and MCAS exams. These exams have been spread out across the month and have shown the improvements in learning that students have made. Uh, the seniors wrapped up their last full day of school on May 13th, where they had a class cookout, followed by the annual class walk around the middle and high school, and then, after long months of a of exams, the seniors and juniors were able to relax the night with the prom at the cruise port and Gloucester spring sports wrapped up at the beginning of the week, with playoff brackets coming out in the next few days, and then finally re-elections for the student council will begin in early June for next year's members and then in the middle school. So far this week, eighth graders have been on the yearly class trip to D.C. and D.C. they will be able to see some of the topics that they've learned in civics class in person. Tuesday, May 12th was the MHS concert for Band and Chorus, taking place in the high school auditorium, and then, along with the high schoolers that have been taking MCAS at both the middle and elementary school, students have been working hard to complete their MCAS over the past month and then for the elementary school during the past week, both the Winthrop and Cutler third graders third grade students have taken their field trips to the winning museum on Monday and Friday, respectively, respectively. And then last month, last Monday night, the Winthrop band and chorus members had their concert in the Winthrop Cafeteria. And then finally, next Friday, the Cutler fifth graders will have their yearly talent show. Thank you. 00:07:56,089 S1: Excellent. Thank you. All right. Does anyone have any questions for Anderson? 00:08:02,370 S6: Thank you. 00:08:05,050 S1: Um. Thank you. Thank you so much for doing the work to compile that and let us know not just about the high school, but also give us a little glimpse into the other schools. It's really helpful to hear it from a student perspective. And thank you for doing that. Um, we appreciate it. 00:08:23,490 S6: Um, you. Yeah. You are. 00:08:26,889 S1: Free to go. 00:08:27,529 S6: To stay. 00:08:28,449 S1: But we also know you probably have other things to do, and, and and Dave's worried about your computer. 00:08:37,210 S6: All right. 00:08:38,409 S5: Thank you for having me. 00:08:39,409 S1: Thank you. Thanks so much. 00:08:40,730 S6: Appreciate it. 00:08:45,210 S1: Okay. Um, next up, we have the consent agenda. Um, this is typically composed of items that we anticipate will be, um, non-controversial. Um, does anyone have any items that they'd like to hold from the consent agenda? I do, just to be difficult. I'm holding the minutes from May 7th. Um. All right, so, um, Tom, can you can we can you offer a motion on the consent agenda? Um, without that, without the minutes from May 7th? 00:09:23,820 S7: Yes. I motion to approve the warrants listed on the consent agenda to be approved and the minutes to be held off. 00:09:35,259 S6: Second. Okay. 00:09:37,659 S1: All right. We we got a motion and a second. There's actually more to the consent agenda, but we will. 00:09:42,500 S6: Oh. 00:09:43,259 S1: That's okay. It's a learning experience. 00:09:44,779 S6: We'll do double sided today. Ah, okay. No worries. Usually I usually. 00:09:48,740 S1: Just. 00:09:48,940 S3: Say I moved to accept the consent agenda as presented. 00:09:52,820 S7: Minus. 00:09:53,179 S6: The message, with the exception of okay. 00:09:55,139 S7: I'm going to review that motion easier. 00:09:56,700 S6: Yeah sure. Okay I rescind my second. 00:09:58,419 S1: Yeah. 00:09:58,659 S6: There you go. Take some. No. And this is this is why like it's trial by fire. The double. 00:10:03,059 S7: Sided threw. 00:10:03,539 S6: Me off. It throws you off. Yeah. 00:10:05,259 S1: All right. So give it a shot. So I. 00:10:06,460 S6: Just. 00:10:06,659 S1: I move the to that we accept the consent agenda. 00:10:09,220 S7: Go ahead I move that we accept the consent agenda as outlined. Minus the minutes. 00:10:14,820 S1: Second second by Amy Berger. Um, all right. So there's no discussion. All those in favor that is unanimous. Of the six members present and the motion passes. Um, I held the minutes from May 7th, um, because I would like people's recollection. But if you look at the minutes, it, um. Sorry. I'm pulling it up on the part where we got the presentation about the trip. Where is that? 00:10:47,590 S4: Bottom of page two? Top of page three? 00:10:50,429 S1: Yes. Um, Regina. Regina O'Neil was here, but she did not actually give the presentation. It was, um, Stacy Pawson gave the presentation. 00:11:01,470 S6: Great pick up. Thank you. My point is for you. 00:11:05,950 S1: Regina was here. 00:11:07,190 S6: She was just not presenting. 00:11:09,350 S1: So, um. 00:11:10,590 S7: Her name is there twice. 00:11:12,110 S1: Um. All right. So is there any other discussion about that? All right. Anybody willing to make a motion? 00:11:21,750 S3: I can do it. I, I move that we amend the minutes from May 7th, 2026. 00:11:31,029 S6: To. 00:11:31,710 S3: State. The proper person has. 00:11:34,750 S6: Presented. 00:11:35,629 S1: Stacy Pawson. 00:11:36,629 S6: That. 00:11:36,830 S3: Stacy Pawson gave the presentation. Second. 00:11:40,720 S1: Second by Amy Berger. Is there any further discussion? All those in favor? That is unanimous. Of the six members present and the motion passes. 00:11:53,600 S8: Nice job, Eagle eyes. 00:11:54,840 S6: Thank you. I've. 00:11:57,000 S1: I've. I've certainly missed plenty of things, including one time someone noticed that my my name was spelled wrong and I didn't. 00:12:02,879 S6: Notice it. 00:12:03,480 S1: So, you know, um, okay. Um, I think next. Next up, we have an opportunity for a presentation from the Doherty's, um, bus. Doherty's garage. Excuse me. Bus transportation. Welcome. 00:12:21,919 S9: Thank you. 00:12:23,519 S10: Good evening everyone. Mike Callender, president and general manager of Doherty's garage. We also have an jackman here, a Hamilton resident and the bus driver for bus four. 00:12:33,840 S1: Um, I'm just going to make sure everyone can hear you. 00:12:35,960 S10: Sure. Let me, uh, adjust the microphone. 00:12:38,240 S6: Yeah, there's. 00:12:38,960 S1: There's two factors, like whether we can hear you in the room and then whether the recording can hear you. 00:12:42,639 S6: So perfect. Thank you. 00:12:45,159 S10: I think we've got a bit of a presentation there. You can see it was quite a winter. The electric buses did just fine. But there's a picture during one of the the storms. Um, we've got a brief agenda here. Just a broad update, just to kind of want to share how things are going and then Q&A for any questions you may have on your mind at the end. Um, just jumping into kind of at a glance, you know, thank you for the opportunity. It was just about a year ago this committee voted to award us a contract based on electrification on an eight plus two year term. It was quite ambitious. I know there was a lot of risks. We had about 60 days to execute, but with the partnership with the school, the incredible folks that came over to Dougherty's and the the team we've built, we've we've been quite successful. We think so. An overview 12 elementary routes, 14 high school and middle routes to in district special education routes to late runs every day except for Monday and Friday. And to date, we've completed about 240 charter trips, mostly athletics, but also field trips. So a very busy, busy district here. A couple metrics. We were able to get 15 of the 17 electric buses deployed this year, which was way ahead of schedule. We'll get into a little bit to that later with those electric buses. We've driven over 100,000 miles so far and displaced over £500,000 of CO2, which. 00:14:12,529 S11: Is pretty cool. 00:14:13,570 S10: And also have not missed any charters or routes. We hope to continue doing. 00:14:18,730 S11: So with that performance. 00:14:21,529 S10: We'll jump to the next slide the electric bus performance. We've deployed all of the big buses and large buses. This was through some creative procurement through our providers, the depot bus sales and the national bus dealer, as well as Highland Electric and Beverly based organization, basically found stranded units that were Massachusetts specs from another school district and were able to get them here before school started. 14 of the 15. The other one came in a couple of months later, so we fully staffed big bus buses. There are the two electric mini buses for the district. Special ed are something of a special order. They'll have wheelchair tie downs, air conditioning. So we're expecting those mid next school year. That's still a little bit fluid. 00:15:07,330 S1: I'm going to just interrupt you for one second. You got some some, uh, excuse uh, excuse me. We got a lot of static going. 00:15:17,529 S1: All right. Can we trade out for this mic here? Can we. 00:15:21,730 S6: Do that? Jen's mic. Yeah. 00:15:23,409 S1: Let's see if we. 00:15:23,929 S6: Can do that. 00:15:25,490 S2: I don't know if you're gonna be able to pull it that far. 00:15:28,169 S1: I don't know if that will pull. You don't think that will go that far? Oh, yeah. No, 00:15:42,419 S1: I thought it was going to. 00:15:43,299 S8: I don't think it's good. 00:15:44,179 S1: I was misunderstanding the record there and thought we would be able to. 00:15:47,460 S12: Just mention this one is connected to you. 00:15:50,899 S13: So I guess I'll hear the song we'll reach. 00:15:56,620 S14: It. Let's figure it out. 00:15:57,740 S15: Hey, you got. You got plenty. 00:15:58,899 S7: Oh, yeah. 00:15:59,500 S1: There we go. 00:16:00,179 S8: I'll get it. 00:16:01,019 S12: Okay. 00:16:02,259 S16: I'm sorry. That's okay, that's okay. 00:16:09,220 S14: Thank you. 00:16:09,740 S10: Testing. No static. 00:16:12,019 S1: All right. Thank you. 00:16:13,899 S10: Just a couple of points of feedback and lessons learned from our first year with the electric buses. The performance and reliability has been amazing. Honestly, we over procured diesel buses expecting a lot more issues. And we honestly had more issues with the new generation of diesel buses this year, which was extremely counter Counter intuitive and unexpected. We are using them mostly for roots, but a fair amount of charters, basically anything in Cape and League. We feel comfortable at this point, putting electric buses on those charters regularly, going up to Newburyport, Amesbury and back with with no performance issues. Bill Walsh, the bus driver, did want to put his claim to fame on here. He did 106 miles on a single charge the other day with am PM in a midday between, and he still had 33% fuel remaining. I will say during the the winter that that range does decrease substantially due to the onboard heat. So we were pretty diligent about charging those between routes, making sure we always had more than enough power to, to get those, um, those students back and forth. Um, pretty good in the snow and ice. Honestly, they're a little bit heavier. The weight distribution is very low, and the torque on the EV's is is pretty good. And I got some stories for you if, uh, if you're interested. Um, with that, we can jump to the next slide on what we think is making this, uh, successful operation really a strong partnership coupled with an amazing team we've assembled. The dispatch manager, Mike powers, works in the operations office next door. And Christine Breese is the, uh, the terminal manager down at the depot, working very well together to keep everyone online and, uh, communication going back and forth with the district. But the strong partnership from the district's been been incredible. Um, you know, early on, I say the first couple of weeks, we were really getting our feet under us with the transfer routes, adjusting the routes, and making some pretty significant tweaks that I think are making the system a lot better. Stuff as easy as shifting which buses are going to which transfer schools has really streamlined it. We still have some hiccups here and there, but by and large, the, uh, the afternoon, um, elementary transfers are going quite well. We've also Implemented some unique solutions, like a dedicated shuttle for the rec department on early release days, because those those days, they swap the tears. So elementary goes first. And. You know, it's always a little chaotic. And any way we can find to alleviate and create capacity in that system we've been happy to do. I want to highlight the responsiveness from the the principals and the admin. I can't understate how important it is for the drivers and the safety of the students for when there are student behavioral issues to have them taken seriously and addressed. And the team at Hamilton went, that's been incredible. It really improves our reputation in the bus industry, and it makes it easy to attract and retain drivers because they feel heard and they understand that the school is is really working with everybody to create the best possible environment. Shout out to the athletic department. It's a very busy schedule, also very competitive teams. The generals are and we have been working with them to find creative solutions to meet overlapping, very complex trips, sometimes doing five trips at 230 and 3 p.m. when routes are going. So it's been a very collaborative effort there to make sure our student athletes are getting where they need to be. Two more shout outs. The police departments have been incredible. We had a pretty serious trend of stop arm violations early on in the year, and the Hamilton and the Wenham PD put details behind our buses for weeks at a time. Got the word out. And those have really decreased and really appreciate their their support and making this safe. And also the DPW during the crazy winter, they were out there moving snowbanks so that the the bus stops could be clear and safe and visibility for the for the students and the drivers as well. Last slide, just a couple of key initiatives we're working on with Jen and Curtis over the spring season and summer going into next year, we are implementing helping implement bus registrations. This will give us better insight when routing this summer of who actually wants to take the bus in the past. We've kind of just assumed everyone is going to take the bus, and then you figure it out over the first couple of weeks and trim those numbers down. We think this will be a lot more efficient. And I know Jen's doing a great job communicating with the community. And of course, we'll be working collaboratively to make sure we're not accidentally cutting off service to folks. And everyone's still getting a ride. We're also working on a parent app. Now that the Power Schools integration is, I believe, complete, our routing software can create a system where parents can get notifications of when the bus is, and then we can also send communications. Hey, a bus is late or even, you know, emergency type of communications at that point. Last piece is we are running a stop arm camera pilot. We have three buses with them now, and we're starting to collect that data to see what needs to happen and if it can justify a more a broader investment for the fleet. But we're pretty optimistic that these will help deter by keeping the violators accountable. That's the end of the presentation. We'd love to take any questions. And, you know, take it wherever you guys want. 00:21:42,579 S1: Thank you very much I appreciate coming. Thank you. If you have questions. 00:21:49,299 S8: I don't think we've ever had a presentation. Like. 00:21:54,019 S1: I don't know if you remember, but when we when we voted um, on this, we, I think we as a committee asked, um, to have some follow up. And so I really appreciate you coming and giving that follow up so that we could understand how it went. It was like you said, it was a new, um, venture for us. And so it was really good to have that follow up and to hear how things was. I appreciate that, and I and I remember that? I actually don't remember whether it was you, but people were here from Doherty's on that evening, um, when we were voting on that. You know, um, so it was a good discussion at that time and good that you were willing to come back. Um. Anybody else? Yeah. 00:22:39,660 S2: And I just want to publicly thank Mike and his team. Um. Super responsive. Anytime, any place, text, email, whatever, we reach out, boom, we get a response. Um, the opportunities to improve just consistently keep coming. He's always looking for ways. The team is always looking for ways. How can we improve? How can we make it better? Asking questions. Uh, he has team been working with us even on emergency evacuation. Trying to figure out in this community the best way for us all to communicate consistently without walking over any, you know, police, fire, EMS or anything like that. So we've been going back and forth on systems for that. How to, you know, transition kids where to transitions to kids to during an emergency how those things work. So it has been I will tell you, I had heart palpitations back when we put this on the line because it was a gamble in this area. Not not a lot of exposure for electric buses. Um, never mind the fact trying to get everything ramped up. So Dougherty's pulled it off. I congratulate you for that. But also, thank you for helping my heart palpitations. Um, but it's been great. Everybody I talk to is like, this is great. You know, it's it's amazing. Athletics has never had no issues with buses in the entire time I've been here. Knock on wood. But it's it's it's the responsiveness and the opportunity to always have we have Mike powers with us every day. All day. He communicates directly with both Curtis and Jen. So there's there's a good connection. So keeping keeping communication channels wide open and really doing the best we can to find improvements. I appreciate that and I want to thank you and your company for that. Um, it's made a big difference and it's a huge difference from last year. So thank you. 00:24:34,480 S10: Thank you all. You took a calculated risk on electric buses in us. And we appreciate I just want to thank all the Dougherty's team, especially the bus drivers like Anne here who are here every, uh, every school day and snow days, honestly, to make this all work. So thank you all. 00:24:49,440 S1: Thank you, thank. 00:24:50,160 S16: You, thank you. 00:24:51,000 S1: Thank you. Um. 00:24:55,240 S10: Oh, actually, can we. 00:24:56,519 S1: Absolutely step right up? 00:24:58,920 S17: I'm Anne Jackman, and I drove a school bus for Lamson when my daughter was small 43 years ago. Um, and I can't say enough about Dougherty's. They're just like Lampson. They're right on the ball. If you have an issue, it's addressed immediately. I drove for Salter for four years before Doherty took over, and I was in shock about how we were treated, the the way that the, um, the maintenance of the vehicles were it was really atrocious. I really felt that at some point it was not safe. So I really applaud you for taking on this with, um, my tax money. 00:25:55,920 S1: And. 00:25:57,079 S17: Um, I do really, really like working for Doherty's. Of course, it's in my town, and I wasn't intending on working after retiring, but this is a lot of fun and I like it. 00:26:12,160 S12: Great. 00:26:12,640 S1: Thank you. Thank you so much. You're welcome. Thank you. 00:26:15,400 S8: Um, I just have to also say I haven't heard Lampson bus line, because that was the bus that I took when I was a kid. 00:26:22,369 S2: So I thought the same thing. I was like, wow, that's been a. 00:26:25,329 S14: While. 00:26:25,809 S8: But to me, it was one bus. I think we got the special bus and had headphones on. It was like the coolest thing. 00:26:30,890 S16: Oh very. 00:26:31,289 S8: Cool. 00:26:32,130 S1: So funny. Um, thank you all. Um, so I actually, I do just want to say just sort of to the committee, I, um, I this is a good example of something that it was it was not a unanimous vote. I myself was, um, very concerned about the level of risk that Eric just talked about. And I've talked that this is what you want when you when the committee as a whole makes the decision, even if you're the one that's skeptical about it, this is what you want. You want everyone to come together and you want it to be a success. And this is, um, so it was a risk. I'm glad that my committee members took that risk and we joined and it worked out. So thank you. And thank you for coming back because that really was important. I know when we made that decision it was important to hear the follow up. So thank you. Um, and we appreciate the personal time. 00:27:24,700 S3: Thank you. 00:27:24,980 S1: For your great. 00:27:25,819 S3: Thank you for driving the kids. I don't think I could do it. 00:27:29,900 S18: Well, some days I think maybe I should. 00:27:36,619 S1: Okay. All right. Anybody else have anything or. Good, good. All right. Thank you. Um. All right, next up we have, um. I'm hoping that all of you will open your calendars and. 00:27:55,339 S1: Look at this list, and we can, um. 00:27:58,420 S2: All these dates in your. 00:27:59,380 S1: All these dates. So my hope is that people already had a chance to look through this. Um, but even if you didn't, I'm going to just highlight a couple of things for you. So first, let's just start. Did anyone have. 00:28:13,140 S12: Actually. 00:28:13,740 S1: I think we should probably start with a motion. So that we're under motion. Um, Tom. 00:28:23,220 S7: Do you want a motion to approve? Yeah, the the meeting scheduled for 2627. Correct? Correct. Uh, I moved to approve the school committee meeting scheduled for 2026, 2027. Year. 00:28:36,619 S4: Second. 00:28:37,299 S1: Second by Kristen Noone. Um, so does anyone have anything right off the bat? Any date that they felt just was a conflict or a problem that they knew about already? And then we'll talk about a few things that are on here. 00:28:52,859 S4: My only question was, is the Tuesday, January 5th date meant to be a Tuesday? 00:28:59,059 S1: Okay. So and so. No. Okay. So. No. Great. So that is that's the first thing that I'm going to. Well first thing we talked last meeting about the August 10th workshop. So everyone should probably already have that on your calendars. Um, and then absolutely any other date that you want to shout out, I'm going to shout out a couple of things here for you to notice, but anything else we can talk about. So Tuesday, January 5th is a Tuesday. 00:29:27,829 S4: Um, it's not a typo. 00:29:29,470 S1: It's not a typo. It is a Tuesday. And that is because of the timing for the budget vote. I'm sure when how many days out we need to be from town meeting, which we have estimated to be, we're assuming on this that town meeting is going to be on April 3rd. That is not set in stone. Correct. So I don't know if you want to say more about that. 00:29:57,109 S7: That's usually. 00:29:57,670 S15: The first. 00:29:58,309 S1: That's typically that's what it is. Um. 00:30:01,349 S2: Have a little flexibility in the schedule in case it gets wound back. Like when I'm say does it on the Thursday before, we need to still meet the regional agreement. 00:30:10,630 S1: Right. So that's why that is a Tuesday. Um, and then the second or the next thing I wanted to highlight is that the February 4th meeting. And, Vinny, tell me if I make sure that I'm getting this right, but the February 4th meeting. The hope is that that meeting is when we would vote the budget. And then as people who've been on the committee before, before know, we've often had an extra meeting date that is labeled like if needed or in case. But in this case we actually just have our regular meeting is the next week. So if for some reason the budget didn't pass this committee and needed something else to occur, it would occur on February 11th. That's correct. That's the final possible date that we could vote on a budget. 00:31:02,470 S15: Would you do an off week vote? 00:31:03,990 S1: We usually. Right. But just right the way there's two weeks, and two in a row. Uh, two in a row there. Um, and then we have school vacation. Um. 00:31:15,160 S4: The question. 00:31:15,880 S1: Yep. 00:31:16,599 S4: Do we also anticipate that we will have more of those, like, quintuple board meetings, like, woven into this? Yeah. Okay. 00:31:24,000 S1: Yes. And I don't think we have dates for those yet. 00:31:26,640 S15: Because if you remember, last year we talked about changing it by a week or so. So I want to confirm with the towns. 00:31:33,079 S12: Yeah. 00:31:33,960 S1: Um, but we typically have two of those. One would be in the fall and then one would be in between that January 5th date and the February 4th date. 00:31:43,079 S12: Correct. Okay. 00:31:44,759 S1: Um, so, um, then the next thing is. 00:31:52,880 S16: Uh. 00:31:54,440 S1: Oh, I guess just I have just a note that in April. 00:32:00,279 S1: If you see the April, I don't know that this is really anything. It's just something I just keeping in mind that this is all. If you're looking at your calendar, we're anticipating that town meeting would be on April 3rd. So we have a meeting on the first, then town meetings on on the third. Elections would be on the eighth, and then the next meeting would be the 15th. Would have new members on the 15th. Any of that matters is just something I was just. And that's all dependent upon. The town's telling us exactly when town meeting is. So some of that could be get changed, I guess if. But hopefully that will be. 00:32:39,130 S2: Yeah. We have no, we have not verified the town meetings yet. 00:32:43,170 S1: The one thing I would say is the most potential is that hypothetically, if one of them, I think they did a town meeting on Thursday evening, so that would conflict with our April 1st meeting. We would need to adjust, um, if that were to occur. Um, all right. Anybody else have any other questions? We really looked at it in terms of I don't think it had any holidays. 00:33:06,650 S12: Um. 00:33:09,849 S12: All right. 00:33:12,369 S4: I think it looks good. 00:33:13,210 S1: Like we're ready to vote. Okay. Um, so the motion is on the table is to keep these dates as presented. All right. All those in favor, uh, is unanimous of the six members present and the motion passes. 00:33:27,769 S12: All right. 00:33:30,930 S1: Thank you for all that, Benny and Eric. For fighting with all of that. Um. All right. Um, next up, uh, of the facilities study to you, Eric. 00:33:57,049 S2: Thank you. Um, as you all probably remember, we have been trying to move forward from the community conversations into some development of action plan. We've taken the feedback from the community conversations, taking any feedback from um, outside groups that came. It was over 100 people between the two sat down with Vinny, myself, and Curtis, who's here tonight, uh, to talk about, uh, the the development of the RFP that would be used to develop a study, create, you know, request a study of all six buildings. Um, and the way we've we've drafted it out in five different levels. Um, so basically, the RFP would say we're looking for an architect designer who can go into each of our buildings and give us, uh, broad spectrum pricing based on Five different levels, which gives us 30 options for the six buildings. I'm talking about central office as well. So these levels will be used to develop some type of plan moving forward with the community to say, okay, where's the pressure point where what? What is okay with the community financially? How will this work? So for example, I'll use the Bücker next door as an example. And we're going to get five different pricing options for the Booker school. First one would be just general repairs and safety. What would that cost? The second one would be Ada compliance. What would that cost? Um, and then that would include level one. So now level one and two would get combined level three system upgrades and replacement. This is HVAC, plumbing, electrical. The you know, the bigger systems. Level four would be what what does Renovation Edition look like if that's a needed entity. And then level five full replacement. So we would do that for each of the buildings and then ultimately take that information and bring that forward to the communities to help determine where the acceptable level is for for moving forward with whatever type of project we're leaning into. If it's okay, we're going to start with just doing general repairs, safety, and I'll suggest Ada compliance for all the buildings. And that's where, you know, if in these conversations and surveys will do when we get this information, we'll we'll put surveys out and just try to get a feel for where people are so that we can bring something forward to town meeting, to have people give us the vote right at town meeting on the floor, and we know which way to go, which way to go forward. Um, also in the RFP process, we want to have a 15 to 20 year master planning document that will help coordinate that these all these 30 different price points across a 20 year span. It's it's something really outside of the scope of what Curtis does on a day to day basis. He's he's doing the more, uh, kind of in-your-face short scale. This would allow us to have a plan, integrate it with the towns, help them to see all of what we have on the table coming forward. And essentially the the the work spec here is a draft works back that Curtis and Minnie have been working on to include in the RFP, and I wanted to just put it in front of all of you and get any feedback, thoughts about this direction moving forward. And again, um, I would probably do the same thing in the community. It's just put it out in the communities, like here's what we're thinking. Are we in the right direction? And then, uh, get something ready for either town meeting in the in or I know there's one in the fall. I don't know about the second or we wait till April. So we'll have to just determine what what the you know, what the next timeline would be to put something on a town meeting. That request, that town meeting would be for to pay for the study. And those studies range depending on what you ask for. We're asking for a fairly sizable, uh, look at our schools and in-depth look at the schools. So they run between 200 and $500,000. We have a number of, um, studies from local schools that are within that range, a couple hundred thousand to you can limit it. You can there's all kinds of things you can do. Um, but I just want to make sure that we get as much information as possible so that we can continue to share it with the, with the public. So this document attached to the memo is really the the base draft for the work specification. The work specification is what tells the designer or architect what we're looking for. When they create their proposal They use the work spec to develop their proposal and then submit the proposal. We look at all the proposals, determine who met the specs, but also who met the. There are other requirements that are standard in many of our contracts. And then go forward with someone and develop a timeline for getting all this information complete. So I just wanted to put that out there to say, here's kind of the direction we figured out from the feedback that we've gotten from the community, from the public, from meetings here and then. Um, and certainly you don't have to review it all tonight, but we are looking for feedback from the committee to be able to say, okay, yeah, this looks like a good direction. Or have you thought about or maybe think about this. So just just wanted to put it out there, put it out in public so people can at least get a little taste of it. Um, we haven't moved forward. We're not moving forward with anything yet. This is really all draft documentation. And, um, you know, we continue to review it and tweak it a little bit as we learn a little bit more about different things. Um, as Curtis is experiencing right now, everything you think is going to make it to the end of the year may not. So there's a lot of, uh, a lot of things crashing earlier than we thought. So. 00:40:08,539 S1: Um. All right. Do people have questions or comments? 00:40:12,619 S4: I just have one question. I just want to make sure I understand that the sort of the timing of when major funds would be spent on this would not be until, arguably, after a fall town meeting, when people vote to appropriate funds for the study. So we're just getting estimates for the study at this point. 00:40:29,739 S2: So we we are going to put out a request for proposals that request for proposal. Generally people put a limit on it, you know, not to exceed X number of dollars. Not always. But I think that's a it's a kind of a wise thing to do. Um, that request for proposal would not go out until we were able to. Appropriate funding out of town meeting. So we'd go to town meetings, say this is what we want to do. Here's the proposal. This is how much is going to cost. They would approve it. Now that's one option. The second option is we would lean into our capital stabilization funds and just pay for it. It doesn't have to go to town meeting. It would get voted here at a public meeting. And just I'll just use the number 300,000. You have that money in the in the account, you could say yes, let's get this RFP going using the monies that we have available. The beauty of that is it speeds up the process, um, dramatically because I think I think in this case, we we may have to sit on this until April town meeting. Um, just given the fact that we just went to town meeting and asked for an override and a debt exclusion, and I think that's a prudent move in, in the big scheme of things. But I think this answers the all the questions that came up during the process of the community conversations. 00:41:55,230 S4: And one of them does not always have a fall town meeting. I mean, Hamilton more often does. So, you know, that doesn't help speed things up. 00:42:04,670 S19: So I have a comment and a question or just something to think about. My comment is I feel like the tiers make sense in order, given what I know about facilities improvements now. Um, just as far as our concerns about kind of that domino effect of, you know, triggering upgrades due to spend. So I think this is a really smart plan. Um, and then my kind of thing to talk about or thing to keep in mind is when we choose a consultant, how do we ensure like neutrality and trust, just given all the conversations we've had about this topic? That's maybe rhetorical, but just something to think about. 00:42:45,630 S2: No, that's an important question. I think the the neutrality and trust piece comes from the, the group itself coming forward and really connecting with the community. Part of the RFP is you need to connect with the community. You need to be out there. You need to talk to the community. You're going to need to present to the community. Okay. Um, I think that's that's a key piece to it. Sometimes school district will just do a study. They'll just have a group come in and do a study. Here's the answers. Um, this would be something more of these are the things we we've outlined. And we started talking about that what we wanted to have them present publicly, um, present at a school committee meeting, present at an outside event. So open up the doors that way, I think is helpful. Um, and then it's a, it's a reputation thing. I mean, a lot of the, the bigger companies have a pretty strong reputation. The, the companies that would probably bid on this type of a project have pretty strong Reputations. So and it's a it's a bid process. We're not selecting anybody based on what we want. Where based on this document is really how the selection comes about. Do they meet all of the expectations of the document, um, fully or not? Is there a bid the lowest? Yep. There is the lowest. So it's we don't really get to select. Um, but we do put enough criteria in there to be able to say, these are the things we need you to commit to, to, to pull this off. And then there's an evaluation process once the RFP comes in. And it's part of this package is an evaluation process that Vinny would go through on opening day. You know, they'd be due on a certain day by 2:00. They'd be read publicly, literally. People come from these companies and sit and watch the public opening and then verify how each of the the proposed proposals would meet the expectations of the RFP. Great. So it's a it's a lengthy process in itself. It takes months. Um, and there's a lot of triggers that each of the buildings has a different trigger level based on value. Right. So when you're looking at some of these just general repairs and health and safety requirements might sneak under that, that compliance trigger. But as soon as you you do that you got to go to tier two. So that's something that's why we kind of kept those two tight tightly together. 00:45:14,849 S12: That's smart. 00:45:18,010 S8: I have a, um, this is sort of piggyback on what Amy was saying about that, that trust level. Excuse me? Well, the district has never done anything, um, sort of whole scale like this before. Everything is sort of in one place. Um, a lot of this information has been available throughout, you know, and it's something that we have been trying to sort of go through in this process that we've been here. So, you know, while it's really great to think about actually having all this place to, to as a starting point moving forward, you know, um, this is the process of bidding for this is going to take the better part of a year. You know, then at that point, you're going to have to go through this whole thing, which is probably another year down the line to then just get the answers to about where we need to go from there. Right. So we keep pushing the the maintenance that actually needs to happen. You know, when I were looking 510, you know, most likely ten years plus down the line, um, you know, which is something that we had sort of tried to, to, to really emphasize last year. So in ten years time, there's a very good chance I'm not going to be living in this town anymore. Right. And everyone at this table is going to be different, and whomever is voting in the public is going to say, I wasn't part of that study. I didn't know what was going on. And in everything it sort of gets kicked on the can. The, you know, can gets kicked down the road even even further. Right. And so that's my fear of what's going on here. I think you guys are attacking this in the right way by getting the feedback that you're, that you got from, from the, the loud voices that were coming at you. Um, but I still have that fear, right? Because this information, we have a lot of this information. Right? We know we do. And we've been trying to be very clear that we have this information. And as you said, while we've been trying to deal with it, things are falling apart, you know, around us, um, in the United say, even though I wasn't here from, um, September until April. Right. April wasn't a surprise. It really wasn't. Right. Our budget wasn't a surprise. We saw this coming last year. Right? And we tried, so to say that. So. So now we're looking at it. It's funny because before you even mention your number, I was thinking this is going about 600,000, right. Just thinking I'm like, all right. Well, you have 30 reports, right? 30 full reports. $20,000 report. Is it to, you know, outrageous to think about. So if you can get it under that, I'd be very surprised. It is not an invaluable document. Right. It's a great thing to do, but a lot of money, a lot of time. Right. And in the meantime, we're literally trying to keep the lights on. Right. Um, but like, you know, so, so, I mean, I just think I would be remiss not to just at least say the silent part out loud there. Right. That that that. I understand why you're doing this. And I think it's a great solution for answering those sort of squeaky wheels. And again, it's valuable information to have everything right. There is super valuable information. However, we're not going to learn much new. We're going to cost a lot of time and money to do it for people who might not even be here. Right. And then there's got to be other people who are still not going to buy into it when it's there. So I'm so I'm I'm fully supportive. While I'm supportive, I'm very hesitant at the same time because of that. 00:49:14,550 S12: It's oh sorry, God. 00:49:15,550 S7: Oh, if we have the data available. Right. Because we've been through this before. Right. I wasn't here, but I've been in the community for the whole the whole trip. Are we looking at a consultant to come in and consolidate the data we already have presented back to the community? Leverage those funds we would spend on this to solve some of these emerging issues we have today to keep the lights on. and then propose the plan at a sooner timeline. Right. If we have the data, why can't we bring a consultant? 00:49:41,880 S3: Because the community. They didn't like the data. 00:49:44,519 S12: Well, so. 00:49:46,079 S1: Well, I like. And I'm going to let Eric answer. But we do have a significant amount of data, but not necessarily on every single school. So we have a lot of data about Cutler. We have we have a tremendous amount of data about Cutler, some decent data about Winthrop, less so about some of the others. So like, yes, I mean, I agree with both David and Tom. I would hope that the information we already have is going to be used. We're not going to ask them to reinvent the wheel. 00:50:11,599 S2: No. 00:50:11,960 S12: And they're going. 00:50:13,000 S3: To want to do their own. 00:50:13,840 S12: Thing. Yeah. 00:50:14,320 S3: No consultant. I'm going to come in and say I'm going to reinvent the wheel because I'm going to use my own people. I'm going to do my own evaluation. It's literally reinventing the wheel 100%. 00:50:24,559 S2: But part of it will be the part of the advantage will be the Cutler School, as I think Daniel just said, has the most in-depth study work done. I mean, they have site studies done. They have adhesions. 00:50:37,050 S12: Spend a ton of money and. 00:50:38,369 S3: Time on. 00:50:38,690 S2: That. Yeah, they have a crazy level of information already. Not so much with the other schools. So the good part is we get information on all of our facilities, all of our buildings. Um, you know, we're we're starting to build some, some trust back a little bit. I mean, I had those community meetings, uh, were run purposefully to just invite people in, open the doors and let people say what they need to say, and I, I loved it. I thought it was great. And I think a lot of people, even people who were on the know side, said, okay, thank you for doing this, because now I feel like, okay, I got involved. It spilled over into the strategic planning process because some of those people jumped on the strategic planning committee and say, all right, I want to be part of that too. So it's it's it's opened some doors for us, some made some some newer connections, which, you know, and I think the, the, the reality is everybody has the. The, the understanding that things need to be done. Um, the reality of our two communities is there is not this unlimited funding source. The, the unfortunate nature of chapter 70 funding of unrestricted government aid and the the resourcing available even at the state level, when you start looking at, um, you know, how many schools get funded annually? They don't. I mean, look at the roof. You know, you're in this you're in this long standing cycle of, oh, your roof's not old enough. You got to wait. So, um, you know, looking at all of those things has been on the table at the state House. We've done a ton of work at the state House. Um, we believe we'll see some reform for chapter 70. We believe we'll see some reform for on the MSBA side. Um, there is already some push to increase, uh, unrestricted government aid now. Uh, the using supplemental funds if if I'm reading all of the documents. Right, if I'm coming out of the, um, the various budget meetings that are happening now, there's a commitment there. I can tell you, our legislators that represent these two communities are on board and and in the battle. So that's helpful. And I don't think anybody is saying don't do anything. I think there's just this just the level of tolerance. We still are trying to meet the needs of the community, not just the school community. And that's, I think, where I've learned in this process to be just a little more delicate and, and get gathered in meeting all these different people got some interesting understanding and perspective, like, you know, the person who has lived here for 52 years and lives in the same house they brought their kids up with. It happens to be a four bedroom home. Um, their spouse passed away. They're living on Social Security and that that, as we know, Social Security does not go skyrocketing up every year. Um, so it's a it's a fixed income situation. And then all of a sudden you see a 6 or 8% increase in on the tax side. That hurts. And, you know, I think that's where for me, taking an account and trying to use this to gauge what makes sense, there'll always be someone who says no. And that's okay, because if you, you you may have to um, but I think that through the processes we've taken since the failed vote, I think we've gained a little bit more of an understanding of, okay, we're opening things wide up, and we're trying to find some, uh, opportunities within these five levels to get something done. And it's not fast. Like they've said, the stuff takes takes time. The reality is we can speed it up by by taking option two and using, um, monies out of our own, the funds we already have. You could you could say, all right, I'm going to put an RFP out in 30 days. Put it out for another 45, 45 days, get the bids in and get it going within a six month window. Um, but we, you know, we want to commit to that. And I also want to be able to have the stable ground of having everybody in the community have a say. And that's it sounds it sounds kind of grandiose, but that's what they're asking for. And I think that's what what I owe them anyway. And just saying, okay. Yeah, you came in, met me halfway. I'm willing to, to put this stuff out and get this information out there. So we'll send this out after, you know, this meeting, send it out to kind of general public and say, hey, give us some feedback. What do you think? What do you think about this process? And then, you know, we'll move forward. 00:55:13,150 S4: I have a question. I thank you. I think we have to do this. And I think the data I don't want to say it's like secondary, but I think the biggest reason to do this in my mind is to reaffirm to the community, as you're saying, that we have heard them, that this is more purchasing an element of community, trust and engagement. I do also think that this, um, RFP should be run through another community conversation because I think unless an arguably folks could come to this meeting or read it off or our gender or what have you, but I don't think that people really do that. But I think we need to either specifically invite back the people that came to the first ones, if we know who they are, or open it up to the second one to say, okay. When we last left the scene, we did this. We wrote this report, the school committee discussed it. We decided to do this and go through this because I think, I think if we don't do that, I think we run the risk of things like, well, these are the wrong tiers. Who picked these tiers? How did we decide that that these were the buckets. And maybe these are like the standard facilities management tiers, but I think there has to be an element of community conversation and education about that. And I also think the question about the capitalization using the Capital Stabilization Fund money should potentially be brought up in a community conversation because some people, and even myself, I'm still learning the many flavors of municipal and school district money, money that exists. Well, why are my taxes going up if you have $300,000, like sitting in the bank? Like, I don't necessarily know that people understand how these monies are allocated and how they can appropriately be used. So I think we've got to put this out there. I don't know about, you know, paying for it, which road to take, but I think it needs to have a community conversation. And I also know that there's monies that we often get at the 11th hour of the school year that fall to E, and can those somehow be snatched to pay for this so it doesn't fall to Andy. 00:57:22,969 S2: Yeah. So the the anything in Indy that you, you would want to put into your stabilization fund have to be voted by the people. So it has to go to a town meeting to. Okay. So so if you remember the 316,000 we just put in to the stabilization fund in the last budget process that goes before the people per vote. So yeah, you could say we want to take everything we have in our, our, our end and push it into the stabilization fund. It just has to be voted out. 00:57:52,329 S4: So we're 12 months out from it. 00:57:54,010 S2: And then once it's voted in after July 1st, the school committee can then vote to determine how to use it. And then we report out when we do our annual report and we report out at town meeting as well. This is how we're using it. This is what the balance is. So yeah, it's a it's a pretty tight process right. 00:58:11,369 S4: But I think people don't know it. You know what I mean. So they or they have to be reminded of it you know. 00:58:15,769 S19: So I like that idea because something about this that I'm concerned about is some feedback that we got. Last time was we had real numbers about the option that we chose and brought in front of town meeting with, you know, design and engineering and costs and all that. And then the feedback was that the other the estimates weren't specific enough to make a decision. And I feel like this won't get us those specific numbers either. And I, I have qualms about pricing out the very specifics of doing all of these things, because that would cost a ton of money. Um, so I just I think it might be valuable to get direct feedback from people like, is this going to be enough to help you make a decision? And I also just want to throw out that. I totally get what you're saying with pushing a timeline and feeling like this is going to take a long time, but I just want to make it clear that this doesn't. If we go forward with this plan, it doesn't mean that we aren't going to do anything until, you know, like maintenance will still happen. Things will projects will still happen. So I just want to make that clear that, we won't just sit here and wait and let things fall apart. 00:59:21,860 S2: Right? And that's a I mean, go back to the FY 27 budget. That's $600,000 and just repairs. 00:59:27,260 S12: You know. 00:59:27,900 S2: Stuff that we need to fix that was added into that budget that's never existed. It's always been the first thing cut this year. We worked to preserve that right. So Curtis is happy. But it's hard to keep up when when, you know, all of a sudden the water main broke at the Cutler for the second time and you got to replace the whole thing, and the $30,000 job goes to 350,000 or 400,000 really quickly. 00:59:50,940 S8: Right. But in but I mean again, so I to be perfectly clear, I know this has to happen, but I also want to put out there that as you have that time, right, you're now putting all this money into a new water main in Cutler of a building that should have been replaced, you know. 01:00:11,380 S12: What. 01:00:11,539 S19: Do you see as an alternative? 01:00:12,860 S12: What's up? 01:00:13,460 S19: What do you see as an alternative? 01:00:14,780 S8: I don't know at this point. It's really It's sort of a necessary evil at this point. But you know, in but but I don't think I love the idea of sort of trade out there in the community. So at least we have some community support moving forward, because no matter what and how rock solid you make this, there's going to be an argument against it at some point down further down the line. Um, you know, and so the more support you can get and for, for, for, you know, when it does sort of come to fruition down the line of, of bringing on another project and what that project looked like, you know, um, to, to make sure there's still people here that support it that remember today. Right, whether this happened or remembers the vote from September. Not happening to be able to, you know, clearly push it forward again, I don't think it's going to be anyone that's sitting here. So maybe Vinnie. 01:01:08,030 S1: Um, so no, but I just want to jump in and say I actually share that fear. And at the same time, I do want to counter with saying that that I actually think something like this document. Much like a strategic planning document. If this were created, this, you know, were fulfilled, this plan, I think it actually I maybe see it a little bit differently, which is that I think that's a positive when the players change because you have something to lean on and say, this is the plan. These are the things we've planned and the people before us did this, and that's the reason you do strategic planning, or one of the reasons you do strategic planning so that you have something to lean on. I think, you know, if it's done well, this could be similarly useful, that it could be, you know, something to say that this is what the public can anticipate. These are the different things. So I also fear about the timeline, but I actually am more optimistic that it wouldn't be as long. As long as you're still long and not what I dreamed of, but I don't think it will be necessary. It doesn't have to be, as long as what I think you're saying in my. 01:02:28,159 S8: I have no problem being the bored cynic. 01:02:31,440 S1: I don't. 01:02:31,800 S12: Know that we. 01:02:32,320 S3: Also have to think about people on the other side of the equation that are going to see this and be like, we already did this. Like we. Why are we spending all this money doing this again? 01:02:43,199 S1: But but again. 01:02:44,000 S3: Just to appease. 01:02:46,039 S1: Again a. 01:02:46,599 S3: Certain group of people. 01:02:47,840 S12: Right. 01:02:48,039 S3: It is. You have to talk to those those people too. And I'm a taxpayer and I would be very frustrated spending $600,000 on a study that we've really probably already did, and people just didn't like what we found. Right. So there's that group as well that we do need to appease. 01:03:07,599 S1: But to be clear, it is. There are I mean, in other words, this is looking at all six buildings. 01:03:12,210 S3: Right? But for these people, which is me. 01:03:15,329 S12: Yeah, I know, I hear it. 01:03:16,730 S3: Things are not going fast enough right now. Things are really going slowly. Um, yeah. Cutler. The water main, the parking lot, like, I mean, things like that. I just think there's a group of people that are really anxious to see some reforms and repairs. And I know you talk to them all the time. Eric. Um, so we do have multiple groups that we need. We need to talk to you. I think you do have the answer with what you just said. Um, like we owe it to the community as a whole to do this. And I think that's the messaging. But I think some people will be frustrated with with this. 01:03:54,250 S2: I think no matter what direction you go in, you're going to have the person who's frustrated or say, no. It's up to us to execute a plan that we can find that balance in and part of the the you know, in my my fifth year here. And one of the things I've always said As I walked into my office and had all these studies on my shelf that have never been executed, maybe not opened by other people other than some of us. Um, which is terrible. And that's, that's a, you know, that's something I'm trying to kind of right that wrong by saying, if we're going to do this, I'm going to make sure we execute something and get the ball moving forward. Um, and, you know, we hit some roadblocks and that's okay. That's part of the learning process and the growth process for the community. And I think even though it didn't go the way we wanted to, a lot of people got involved a lot more. I don't know if we set records at town meetings, but people are aware, people understand, and people really dug into it. There were some passionate people on both sides that dug in deep, and I think that's up to us to leverage that and move something forward so that we can we can start to see that change that we're all wishing and hoping for on behalf of our kids and our staff and their buildings. 01:05:13,179 S12: Okay. 01:05:15,659 S1: Um, can I just add one thing that's kind of more minutia in the in the actual document, which is, uh, and Eric and I talked about this a little bit already, was that that tier one and tier two there. 01:05:29,980 S1: And I think you alluded to it already that like, it's going to be different that you if you do tier one. We don't know because we but we know we do know on some levels you're going to trigger tier two. There's not you know that this is presented kind of as tier one. Tier two. So that's just it's just something that like I think this is the way it should be. I really do. And like I'm just worried that people are going to think, well that's what I want. General repairs. Let's do that. Realizing that rightly so. Like in my opinion. Like making things Ada compliant. 01:06:11,750 S8: You would almost think that should be tier one. 01:06:13,670 S12: Is appropriate. Like that's. 01:06:16,230 S1: I understand why it's written this way, but I just I don't, I don't know. I don't know if there's anything to say that I just want to sort of say that like that is the reality is that our while we don't while we haven't evaluated every single building, the reality is that in many cases, the repairs are going to trigger you into tier two. 01:06:41,030 S8: In other words, the way you just sort of put that, I think probably just saw me a little bit more about why this needs to happen, right? Because there's a lot of information that we hold on this side of the table like that, like, oh, okay, well, if you do this and it's going to trigger this Ada, you're like, yes, it should be Ada compliant already. However it's not. And that's you know, there is money involved yada yada yada yada. And there's all these moving parts, right? There's all these moving parts that, again, we have this knowledge of, um, and we can try and communicate it out. But if, you know, it's sort of more on a personal basis where this is going to really do a good job of laying it out for everybody and having it available to everybody. Um, and yeah, it's again time. It's money. Not to mention the time and money we've already, you know, sort of wasted at this point. Um, but if that's if some people need to move forward, I mean, we need to move forward. Right. And right now, without doing this, we're just going to run into the same roadblock we ran into last year. Um, and not that this is going to clear the way at all, but maybe it's enough of a ramp to get over it the next time, you know? But I do think there is all that sort of little stuff like the, the triggering aspect that people just don't understand. You know. And then, just like, you know, I hate saying this out loud, but just how compliant some of these buildings are. Is is is embarrassing, you know. Um, excuse me, but again, it triggers this large, large dollar amount to, to get it all, you know, up to code. And then for what? For building that we're only going to have online for another few years too. Right. Like, it gets really, really difficult to start thinking that way. Like, I can actually hear when I say some of this stuff. Vinny breathing every. 01:08:38,119 S12: Year in. 01:08:38,600 S14: Here. 01:08:39,279 S8: Because he knows. 01:08:42,119 S7: But I. 01:08:42,760 S15: Think that. 01:08:43,359 S7: That's the education piece that we've all heard about, right? Everybody got hung up around words like consolidation, right. Let's throw it out there. Everything I've heard from the community on my side was we don't want to consolidate. But when they look at if we continue doing the repairs we're doing, are we putting Band-Aids on something we're only going to be able to keep online for a few more years. Right. Do we have to go building by building? What's the best case? And I think these tears make sense. You are without question. You go through tier one, you're going to target tier two. You're absolutely at that point going to trigger tier three. Right? We've all been in construction in one way or another in our lives, whether it's our home or something of that nature, where the moment you open a wall, now you're replacing plumbing, now you're replacing electrical because you didn't realize what's behind there. So it's you know, kitchens are a great example. It turns into an $80,000 project very quickly the moment you try to replace a sink. I think the education piece and the communication piece is critical, but I also want to make sure we err on the side of time because we're going to start doing, you know, water main repairs and all these other things. People are gonna say, well, we're spending money on that. Why aren't we doing this? There needs to be more education to the community about the why we need this now, versus we can't wait or we can't wait for this. So I would err on the side of time if we're going to these tiers are correct 100% agreed. We're going to trigger a lot of them. Once we looked at one, two and three and we bring it to the community. We need to educate them on the why. But then I would love to see us spend a lot of time walking them through, showing them the exact why. When you walk through Cutler for the first time and you take all of that in, you immediately know why. You know what we're dealing with maintenance wise, age wise. So it is going to trigger a lot of emotions again. But I would also err on the side of time because we all know like gases going up by the hour. If you like fuel trucks just to ship material is going to go up. So I would caution that if we're going to put the RFP together, we just are cautious on how quickly we do that, because that will greatly affect the cost of the project no matter what. 01:10:46,369 S12: Okay. 01:10:47,850 S1: Um, does anybody else have anything else? 01:10:50,689 S8: I just want to say I thought this was going to be a light meeting. 01:10:55,289 S1: I think, you know. 01:10:59,779 S3: No one's cried. 01:11:00,619 S1: Yet. No. 01:11:00,979 S12: Not yet. 01:11:03,659 S1: Um, Eric, do you feel like you need other things for us? 01:11:08,300 S2: Any other? The only thing I would ask is to review it and send me Vinnie or Curtis. The feedback. Um, because we're still refining it as well. We're trying to just make sure we're hitting all the right things, if you will. Curtis has been digging in behind the scenes, trying to figure out the best approach and kind of what fits into which tier. So it's it is a difficult dynamic to nail down given the variability within the buildings too. So if you can give us any feedback in the next week or so, we would appreciate it. 01:11:40,380 S8: Yeah, I do definitely want to reiterate to you in a not cynical note that this is actually really well done. You know, trying to come up with a solution to this problem was I didn't know how you were going to do it. And I mean, there's no perfect solution, but this is pretty damn good. So kudos said three of you guys. Really? 01:12:01,220 S1: And I mean. 01:12:02,579 S17: I. 01:12:03,060 S1: Think from having been at those community conversations, it was pretty clear that's some version of this is what people were looking for. 01:12:13,659 S12: Um, so. 01:12:15,420 S1: Um, all right, next up, um, is district goals. Past and future, I think we're talking about. 01:12:23,260 S2: Yeah. And this is really not a long conversation. I just wanted to bring it back around to remind the committee of that. 01:12:30,659 S14: Was to sit next to you. That was. 01:12:34,220 S2: The, uh. I wanted to bring it back around, because this is the point in time when we look back at our goals that we set back in last June, if we if you go all the way back to when we first looked at the draft list, it was the last meeting in June of last year. We went forward in the summer leadership team, worked on honing in on some tighter goals than it came to the process of the workshop with the school committee in August. And now we're here at the end of another school year with our documents. So the process that's happening right now, just so people are aware, um, we're working on putting together the narratives for the current goals, which is why this one is on here. Just a reminder of these are our current goals. Um, so we're doing narratives through the leadership team and digging into that information, uh, looking at kind of our end of year tests and timing it out. So we'll get that document on the last meeting of June, which is the 18th, I believe. Um, and at the same time, we're planning the goals now for, um, excuse me. I'm incorrect. We'll get that document on the fourth for the end of year goals on the 18th. We're planning that kind of list of. Okay, what are the things that we all want to see in the goals. I pushed it to the 18th purposely because the fourth, you're also going to see the draft strategic plan, and a lot of the goals for the next school year will come from that plan. Plus other things that that we talk about that may come up. So I just wanted to give people kind of an idea of progression, of what's going to happen over the next couple of meetings. So the the district goals report will hit that. That report will hit on the fourth. And then on the 18th you'll see the plan goals for the following year, the 2627 school year that will align with the strategic plan. 01:14:35,680 S1: So okay so I'm sorry. So on the 18th. 01:14:39,359 S12: Yep. 01:14:40,359 S1: Um. 01:14:43,720 S1: We'll see. I mean, because at some point the school committee is going to submit goals that they. And that'll happen in. 01:14:52,920 S2: No one's going to. That's where I'm going next. 01:14:54,800 S12: Okay. Sorry. 01:14:56,159 S1: Go ahead. 01:14:57,079 S2: Okay. So as we did last year, I reached out. Outside of the meetings and asked committee members to give me ideas of goals. What do you see as a committee member? Are goals that we should make sure that we absolutely put out there publicly, with the caveat being that there are all kinds of other goals that never make this list that we're working on throughout the year. So, you know, some of them, as you know, I think I think we had a dozen, 12 or 14 last year that we started with in June, and we worked down to what we have here. Some of those other goals that didn't make the high priority list still got done because they had to. Um, but it's just that I just wanted people to see the process. So what will happen is leadership team is is both digging into their narrative writing right now and thinking about how to connect the strategic plan to the 2627 goals. I will send every committee member an individual document. It just says, okay, what? It's a form. It'll who you are, some thoughts and then some ideas for goals. And hit submit and it'll come to me. We'll compile that. And on the 18th we'll have a compiled list from the leadership team and people from the current committee that will align with the strategic plan. 01:16:16,529 S12: Okay. 01:16:17,729 S3: And then on August 10th, do we we refine those. 01:16:21,369 S12: Are we. 01:16:21,970 S2: We'll refine. 01:16:22,529 S12: Them priorities. 01:16:23,689 S2: Yeah. We'll refine them during the summer. Uh, a little bit. We'll bring the draft to the committee. Yeah. Um, get feedback then. Uh, the beauty of this year's being on the 10th, the 11th and 12th, the leadership team has their retreat. So we'll take it from there, give it a final push clean up to make sure we have it for the 20th, 20 20th, I think, which is the first meeting of the 2627 school year. 01:16:49,569 S1: I don't know if this is what you're asking, but it does feel like, I think in the. I think maybe this is what you were getting. I think in the past we did. I don't know that I feel like we submitted information, but I don't know that we sort of hashed it all out at the final meeting of the year. I think we maybe did that at the retreat before. 01:17:06,850 S2: We did a. 01:17:07,170 S12: Carousel. 01:17:07,609 S2: Yeah, yeah, at the retreat, remember we went out in the. 01:17:09,729 S12: Hallway. 01:17:10,170 S1: Some things a little bit earlier. 01:17:11,449 S12: Yeah, yeah. 01:17:11,890 S2: So we'll still, we'll still do some type of, of activity to figure out where everybody wants to be. 01:17:18,850 S1: But but we're going to have done a little bit more. 01:17:21,729 S12: Beforehand. 01:17:22,689 S2: Because we have the strategic. 01:17:23,850 S12: Plan. 01:17:24,489 S3: As to what we had submitted and what you had heard from us. And then when. 01:17:30,090 S12: The leaders. 01:17:30,489 S3: Put our stickers on and determined what the priorities were. 01:17:34,529 S12: Yeah. 01:17:35,210 S2: So we'll still do some of that work. It may be may be out of. 01:17:38,250 S3: But it'll be more. 01:17:38,970 S2: In depth. 01:17:40,170 S12: And. 01:17:40,329 S3: Will be the strategic plan to inform. 01:17:42,210 S2: Yeah, that's the one. That's the reason why. 01:17:43,729 S12: I think we really did that. 01:17:44,850 S3: Before August 10th. Because I. 01:17:46,979 S12: Was. 01:17:47,140 S1: You know. Well, the strategic plan is going. 01:17:48,579 S12: To. 01:17:48,859 S2: Strategic plan will drive more. Yeah. Because it's it's literally a compilation of the committee looked at all of the current strategic plan initiatives, dug out what really didn't get completed, shifted those in. So there's been a lot of work to try to maintain connections to the previous strategic plan. Um, and I'll talk about that more at the next meeting. But we're just going to try to connect the dots for you. So it's a clear process all the way from now through August 20th. 01:18:21,180 S12: Sounds good. All right. 01:18:22,619 S1: Thank you. 01:18:25,500 S1: Um. All right, everybody ready to move on from that? 01:18:30,460 S12: Yep. 01:18:30,939 S1: Okay. Um, Vinnie, do you have anything? 01:18:35,260 S15: Uh, thankfully, no, I don't. 01:18:38,060 S12: I'm happy for you. Thank you. 01:18:39,579 S1: Thank you. That's wonderful. Um. All right, let's do a quick rundown of committee reports. Um. Capital Finance. 01:18:46,310 S3: Benny is still trying to look for a date. I think I got back to you. 01:18:49,949 S14: We're close. 01:18:51,069 S3: Um, so we're looking for a date for our next meeting in June. 01:18:55,270 S12: Um. 01:18:55,909 S1: All right. Excellent. Uh, policy. 01:18:59,229 S19: Yes. I need to schedule a meeting. 01:19:00,750 S12: Okay. 01:19:01,470 S19: Members. Uh, and that's it. 01:19:03,710 S12: Okay. 01:19:03,909 S19: I will do that today. I will send an email. 01:19:05,390 S12: Okay. 01:19:05,949 S1: Great. Um. Negotiations. We are continuing to negotiate with the SP union and our next meeting. Is 01:19:19,590 S1: somebody help me! Is it? Not until the ninth. 01:19:22,270 S4: Yeah, I think so. Let me go back on. 01:19:25,949 S12: Is that. 01:19:26,430 S14: Next. 01:19:26,630 S12: Week? 01:19:27,390 S14: Yeah. Tuesday. 01:19:28,270 S1: Oh. I'm sorry. It's just hidden. You're right. Yeah. Yeah. Just hidden, I have it. Don't worry. 01:19:34,189 S12: 26. 01:19:34,710 S1: Yeah. Okay. 26. It's a Tuesday. Um, just too many things on that day. It was hidden. Um, okay. So, yes, we're continuing to negotiate, and we'll meet you next week. Um, so I don't think we probably don't have a secretary report. Um, I did, um, put out to Tom, our new secretary, and Julia that, um. I'm hoping they're going to gather all executive session minutes so that the next executive session meeting, which will be before the end of the year, we can approve executive session minutes. Um, hoping that. 01:20:12,869 S3: Yes, I'll get them to. 01:20:13,750 S1: You guys will be able to do that. Um. 01:20:16,949 S3: I don't know how many we're missing. 01:20:19,350 S1: Well, I don't know. Well, I have you'll need to go back and look, because I think it's going to be several. I think it'll be. And they might not be missing. They might be with Janelle and just needing to be approved. Okay. So we need to know how many have them been approved? Um, even though Janelle might have them, but they haven't been approved. Um. So. Yeah. Um. thank you for that. Um, and then if you could also, um, look at the various subcommittees and just, just on the website and just see who's which ones are missing. Okay. You're not responsible for fixing the problem that they're missing. But if you could let us know. 01:21:01,439 S12: No problem. 01:21:02,439 S1: That'd be great. 01:21:03,600 S3: Um, if you do that. And then I'll work with Janelle on the executive session. Minutes. 01:21:07,960 S12: Perfect. 01:21:08,520 S1: Um, okay. Uh, Amy, do you have anything from. In our inboxes. 01:21:13,479 S19: In our in our inboxes has been quiet, but I was wondering if we could change this agenda item to a work, uh, communications working group. 01:21:22,680 S12: Update. 01:21:23,000 S1: I was actually wondering. I think you guys are going to be on the agenda next time. And I actually thought about that. That seemed like this would wrap right into that. So yeah. Um, so we'll just put it as a we will. 01:21:38,840 S1: Um, so next time you'll be on the agenda and we can discuss. 01:21:42,409 S12: Great. Yep. Yep. 01:21:45,609 S4: This did not come to my school committee email address, but to my personal email address. Um. A board member of the Hamilton Wenham Rotary reached out to me to share that the Hamilton Rotary will be honoring certain middle school students who will be receiving awards the morning of June 5th at 715 at Um Gordon College and Chester's Tavern, and folks are invited to come. 01:22:14,409 S12: That's nice. 01:22:14,970 S1: Very nice. And they're middle school students. 01:22:16,890 S4: They're middle school students that are that are being recognized across like the five rotary avenues of service. 01:22:22,010 S12: So that's cool. 01:22:23,050 S1: Lovely. Thank you for letting us know. Yeah that's great. And you said and on the sixth, I mean, I'm the fifth. 01:22:28,569 S12: The fifth. June 5th. 01:22:29,649 S4: 15. 01:22:29,970 S12: Yep. 01:22:30,729 S1: Excellent. Thank you. Um, okay. Does anybody else have anything? Um, I just have a couple things. Yeah. Sorry. Sure. Go ahead. 01:22:41,170 S2: I left it off mine, and I need to make sure it's out there Friday. We are annually have Bill Martin, who's retired. Navy. I believe he sets up a group of veterans from the Legion, local veterans, that takes the entire day to visit each of our schools and talk about, um, Memorial Day, what Memorial Day means. Talks about that at at the various grade levels. Um, starting at the high school and then working down through the, the middle, then, uh, they visit each of the elementary schools. So there's usually 8 or 10, um, members from different military branches who come. They volunteer just to be there to interact with the kids, answer questions. So, um, if any of you get a chance to comment, it's really, um, a quick ceremony, but I think it's important for our kids to, to learn and understand about Memorial Day, and I applaud a bill for reaching out every year to say, okay, we're going to do it again this year, right? So we are doing it Friday during throughout the day. Sorry. 01:23:48,699 S12: Thank you. 01:23:49,060 S1: Thank you for bringing that up. It's it's it is great. And it's a big commitment to go to all the schools. 01:23:54,300 S12: Um. 01:23:54,939 S1: It's great. Um, okay. Um, I just had a couple of things on the chair report. Um, I just wanted to. You probably. Most of you probably saw it in your inboxes from the masc. They did put out a position paper on the statewide, um, the interim graduation, um, framework. I thought it was something I have not dug into all of the minutia, but something to read. Just, you know, I know Eric's been involved in some of that. 01:24:32,460 S12: So I don't know if. 01:24:33,180 S1: You've read their position paper. 01:24:34,739 S12: Yet. 01:24:35,180 S2: The which won the mass. 01:24:36,420 S1: Mass? 01:24:36,939 S2: Yeah. Mass and mass have taken a similar position related to the graduation requirements that are coming out from the state. Um, the superintendents have struggled to get their voice heard, and it's continued to just plow forward. I am on a subcommittee for the graduation requirements council just to try to get some information. And the sticking point is really the reality of what it's going to cost us. So another government mandate that comes down. We concern that it, you know, there will be, um, realities that we have to fund, um, that won't be covered by anything from the state other than we expect everybody to align with these graduation requirements. We expect everybody to use my cap for college planning. And they're talking about pushing it all the way down into elementary school, which is, um, if you've read the position papers, but not something we would agree with, we agree with standards. We agree with keeping high standards in the state of Massachusetts. It's just a matter of, um, making sure that we can do it and do it while we're all dealing with the same struggles of trying to pay the bills that we currently have in front of us. So the position papers are pretty good. I can send out the mass one so you can all read it. And, um, you'll you'll probably see a lot more in the next few weeks because it's due to be print out. 01:26:05,949 S12: The final report. 01:26:07,310 S14: Final report come. 01:26:08,229 S2: Out June 3rd week in June. 01:26:09,789 S1: I think I just wrote down June. 01:26:12,229 S12: So. 01:26:14,909 S1: Um, thank you for that. Um, um, the only other thing I wanted to discuss is my understanding. I heard we have, um, so June 4th, we have a meeting on June 4th, which has got a lot of things on it. And I understand we're going to have a couple of members that aren't going to be here. So I just wanted to bring it to the committee to sort of figure out some of the logistics. Um, so there's a lot of things on that meeting, but the one that I think we need to really discuss is that that meeting we had. 01:26:46,279 S12: Planned, huh. 01:26:47,760 S3: Is the compilation. 01:26:48,520 S1: Is the compilation. So that meeting is the meeting we had we have scheduled for the superintendent evaluation. The original plan was that the compilation which is being created by Julia, and I'm pleased to say Julia received everyone's evaluation in a reasonably timely manner, which is great. Um, so there's a couple of things. One, um, Megan, um, who finished her term at the election, um, did write an evaluation, so we will need to invite her. Um, if she chooses to come, she can participate in the conversation. Um, she would not be able to vote, but she would be able to participate in the conversation. So I just want to make. That's part of the reason I want to make sure I know when we're discussing the because we'll need to invite her. Um, so the original plan was to have the compilation be presented on June 4th with a discussion, um, and potentially a vote if there was, you know, literally if there was no notes like it just but the idea being that, you know, feedback provided, if anything, that the committee felt it needed editing and then bring it back on the 18th, which is our final meeting of the year. Um, but I understand that Julia, who's the compiler, is not going to be present on the fourth. Um, and I understand the. 01:28:15,680 S12: Question is also not going to be here on the floor. 01:28:17,880 S1: Um, so first, I guess we need to establish that we're going to have a quorum on the fourth, because that is a big meeting with a lot of things on it. So I don't know, speak now. If other people feel like they're not going to be here on the fourth. Um, so I guess I'm just going to I have thoughts, but let's put it out to the committee about what you want to do about the the one item that I'm talking about, which is the evaluation. 01:28:41,689 S12: Well, I think. 01:28:42,649 S3: I mean, I still have it to you by June 1st. This was the plan. Yeah. 01:28:46,569 S12: Um, are you comfortable? 01:28:48,050 S1: I mean, in other words. 01:28:48,930 S3: With you all having a discussion without me completely, I can watch the recording, of course. Um, and I can read the minutes. Or if you would rather people send individually their thoughts to me, then if we need to change it, if you vote and you say it's great and that's great, but if it needs to be changed, I'm happy to do that and bring it back to the what? The 18th, the 18th. So I'm, I'm happy to, to do that. 01:29:15,329 S1: And so if you're going to be I mean in other words, if you're I mean one thing that could happen. I mean, if I don't know what people think about that, that would mean we'd still have the discussion. We wouldn't have the person who compiled it. 01:29:28,460 S3: Um, they can maybe talk more. 01:29:30,140 S12: Frankly, but. Right. We'd have it, but we'd have. 01:29:32,779 S1: The document, you know? Um, so that's certainly a possibility. Um, I. 01:29:40,699 S3: I don't anticipate it being very controversial. 01:29:43,539 S12: Right. 01:29:43,819 S1: I mean, you've seen the individual evaluations, so I don't know how much opportunity you've already had to review. 01:29:49,300 S3: I don't anticipate there being a lot of, um, controversy. 01:29:53,899 S12: Um. 01:29:54,859 S1: So, I mean, I guess, you know, what you're saying is basically move forward. 01:30:00,180 S12: Like, if that's. 01:30:01,500 S3: What we need to do, I don't want to keep waiting on that, you know? 01:30:05,979 S12: Yeah. 01:30:06,380 S1: Well, I mean, it's our responsibility to get this done, and we have to submit it, you know, in a timely manner. I don't I actually. 01:30:13,500 S12: Don't. 01:30:13,819 S3: You think maybe hold it to the 18th. 01:30:16,300 S1: We could vote on it on the 18th, but I wouldn't want the first time everyone sees it to be on the 18th. That's a concern for me like that. Because if for some if people say, you know, no, this isn't what I want at all, I don't want us to be on the 18th. That's the first time everybody's ever seen it. That's my concern. 01:30:37,260 S12: Um, do. 01:30:38,340 S4: We need to have an additional meeting or a special meeting for one agenda item? I don't know if that's permitted, but I just if that addresses some of the concern, I'm not necessarily looking for all of us to have one more meeting, but I. 01:30:52,260 S1: I mean, that's up to the committee. I mean, I like it's up to you like what you think. 01:30:56,539 S19: You can still submit feedback to the compiler outside of the meeting, like individual feedback. So I think everybody, even if you're out here, you'll have the opportunity to to give feedback as long as you're okay with not discussing it. 01:31:08,380 S12: Yeah, right. Yep. And I mean it. 01:31:11,060 S3: Will be you can all just vote yes or you can get feedback. 01:31:15,460 S12: Right? And I mean. 01:31:16,460 S1: And there's also some in between. Right. In other words like a couple of things. It'll be out. It'll be on the agenda. Out publicly with a big draft watermark on it. 01:31:30,069 S12: And everyone we can read it could. 01:31:34,550 S1: You can read it in advance. You could like. In other words, let's just say, hypothetically, Kristen's. No, she's not going to be here. And she's going to say, hey, Julia, just feedback like this was right. Except on page three. There's a yeah, you know, a quote that's actually for me. And that wasn't exactly right. Like, you know, like whatever. So that would be feedback you'd have like concrete feedback. Um, I mean, I guess. 01:32:02,789 S12: I don't get it because. 01:32:04,029 S3: I get back on the fifth. So that's so like there's no issue with time to like, I can revise. 01:32:10,029 S1: It before the 18th. 01:32:11,270 S12: If. 01:32:11,430 S3: Before the 18th. 01:32:12,310 S1: Well, so maybe I mean, I'm just going to say maybe does it make sense to keep it the way it is with the anticipation that if there's anything that comes up and needs to be discussed, then we would vote on the 18th. If everyone just says this is. Yeah, I think that makes sense. Right. And it would allow Megan to come on the fourth. I can invite her. I mean, she anticipates coming on the fourth, I think. But we and she can't vote anyway. So you know, she can discuss. 01:32:37,550 S3: Everyone submit to you their evaluation. 01:32:40,829 S1: No, I think they've already submitted it to you. Yeah, but isn't. 01:32:43,710 S3: It all public? 01:32:44,630 S1: Where does it go? No. Not yet. Okay. Right. Will be. It will be voted on. Right. Not until I don't know. Right. Okay. Right. That's why I only want, like. That's why you're the only one that's seen them all. We have them. Okay. Exactly. Um. Right. Everybody else has only seen their own. Okay. Um. So, um. Okay. Do we feel like we got that done? We'll just leave it as is with the understanding that, um, people in including Megan can send you information if she has questions or comments, I guess. Okay. And I will make sure that she knows that she's invited. 01:33:26,199 S1: Um, okay. Thank you. Um. All right. Uh, does anyone have topics for future meetings or. Oh, questions first for me. No topics for future meetings. We got a lot on the next couple of meetings. 01:33:44,880 S14: So, are you ready? 01:33:47,640 S1: Um. Oh. Anything? All right. 01:33:51,079 S4: Not right. 01:33:51,399 S1: Now. 01:33:53,800 S1: All right. And last. Anybody's got anything else? I would entertain a motion. 01:33:59,279 S4: I move to adjourn at eight. Yeah. 01:34:04,520 S3: Second. 01:34:05,199 S1: All right. Second by Julia Campbell. All those in favor? We are adjourned at 830 for.