00:00:48,320	S1:
May 18th, 2026. Hamilton Select Board meeting. So we got everyone in person here. So I don't think we have to do a roll call vote here. But we have, uh, Everyone except Bill Olson, who will be joining us, likely late remotely. But we have Rosie. We have Ben, and we have Lee in person here as long as well as myself. So first we'll do the board in committee openings. So we have affordable housing trust one opening the Conservation Commission, two openings, the Community Preservation Committee, two openings, one opening for a member of historic district commission and one opening for an at large member. We have the Hamilton Environmental Impact Committee, one opening. We have the Historic District Commission, two openings for three year terms, two openings for two year terms. One must be a resident of the historic district and one must be a resident realtor. And then we have Human Rights Commission, one at large opening. So at this time, we will open it up for public comment. We will take a maximum of 30 minutes for something that is not already on the agenda and each speaker will be allowed three minutes. So we can start with anyone in the room that wishes to make a public comment. Just head up to the microphone and give us your name and address.

00:02:08,849	S2:
Okay. Robin Davis, 57 Lois Street. So thank you for this opportunity to address the board. I have a simple suggestion I'd like to offer that could make Weaver Pond at Patton Park more accessible, user friendly, and help to promote community and not involve a whole lot of work. So at present, if a young mom or a senior citizen or anybody for that matter wants to enjoy Weaver Pond, do you all know what I'm talking about? Right? We don't toss the word Weaver Pond around it that much, but if we want to enjoy Weaver Pond in that part of the park. There simply is no place to sit. Now there are two picnic tables over by the pool that the kids use in the summer for the park program. And but there's there's nothing for somebody just to go and sit by the pond there. Um, and the shady area is the kids tables are in the sun. But the other part is the shady area. So here's my suggestion. There are four beautiful picnic tables at Cutler Park now. Do you all know what Cutler Park is? Okay, so the the. That's right across from the Hamilton Post office. They were made by an Eagle Scout for his Eagle Scout project some years ago. And the idea at the time was to promote the use of that park. Now, I have never seen anybody at those picnic tables. So since they're already in existence there, they're nice. They're probably pressure treated wood. What if we left 1 or 2 tables at Cutler Park and moved to possibly three of those tables over to Weaver Pond in the shade? And then instantly we would have a place for people to sit. Now, I was just down at the pond this afternoon thinking about this opportunity to speak to you folks, and I saw one mother going to the pond and another leaving the pond. And I thought, where are you going to sit? Mom, you probably don't have any place to sit. So it would be such a simple fix and we wouldn't have to buy anything. All it would involve is some of our hard working DPW men, and if they can't do it, I could round up some of my neighbors. Right. And we could we could do it. So anyway, I know you don't have to speak back to me, but maybe you can suggest what I could do with this idea.

Next. 00:05:17,629	S1:
Thank you.

Rob. 00:05:18,470	S2:
Is that. That's all I say?

00:05:19,990	S1:
Yeah. Okay. Thank you.

00:05:23,709	S1:
Anyone else in the room for public comment?

00:05:28,589	S1:
Seeing no one. Anyone online.

00:05:30,670	S3:
Tim Olson is here from the DPW.

00:05:33,189	S4:
You know I'm here. Can everybody hear me? Can everybody hear me? Yes, I can hear you, Tim. Go ahead. Yes. All right. Sorry. Uh, yeah. So I'm here real quick. Uh, we just got word from the state, uh, a few days ago that the increased their drought, um, conditions to level two. Uh, currently we're at a level one, and we were just underneath our seasonal restrictions. Uh, the level two is in, um, categorized by DEP as a significant drought. And we are mandated to follow, uh, the um, drought management plan as instituted by mass DEP. Uh, level two requires us to ban all mechanical watering, uh, throughout the day and allowing handheld watering, uh, from 8:08 p.m. to 8 a.m.. Um, so what we currently have is mechanical watering from Apple 8 p.m. to 8 a.m.. We need to increase that, uh, to no mechanical watering and just handheld between those time frames. Um, we are looking into it. Um, there is, uh, the way DEP has put this together is through our withdrawal registration. Um, so it's not it doesn't have any to do with our permit. It doesn't have anything to do with our current local bylaw. Um, it is a mandatory thing that, uh, mandatory restriction that DEP is requiring all towns in cities within our general, uh, region to adhere to. Uh, so I'm just bringing that up to the select board tonight. I did talk to Joe about it this afternoon. Uh, he wanted me to come in before you to explain. Um, but it looks like we have to increase, uh, restrictions. Uh, happy to do so. And put the notice out tomorrow and put a message on the signboard. Um, but we are having to follow DPP's guidance and, uh, the regulations set forth in the drought management plan.

00:07:41,759	S5:
I have a question, Tim. Uh, who who is it that, um, ends up enforcing those rules.

00:07:50,100	S4:
Uh, so right now. Uh, it used to be the Select board would vote on them as acting as water commissioners. That is currently how we we made these or increased these restrictions, uh, because DEP has, um, embedded them in our water restriction or withdrawal. Um, sorry. A what? Excuse me? Our registration. Uh, there actually is no need to vote on it. You can take action. Um, you know, um, I guess voting to adhere to the mass, uh, DP drought management plan, uh, restrictions. But actually, it it basically trumps, uh, all local, um, board's towns and cities, uh, ordinances, local bylaws. Uh, because it's a state issue permit, uh, restriction, withdrawal restriction.

00:08:42,700	S5:
Um, but what I, what I was interested in more was, uh, violations of that who enforces or.

00:08:50,039	S4:
Violations would come to me just with, uh. I do send out letters if there are mechanical watering going on. I do send a letter out. My first letter is a kind of a heads up. Hey, we're underneath this. Some people just don't realize that. And so it's more of a courtesy letter that I sent out. Uh, if it's a continued violation, that's when I do have the authority. I believe, uh, as a as a DPW director, uh, to cite somebody for, um, you know, a violation. I have not ever had to do that, uh, because I think people realize that. Oh, I'm sorry. You know, they apologize, and they they terminate or have their landscape, um, company come in there and terminate the use of their system. Uh, but it is actually falls in the DPW, um, realm of, uh, of citations and oversight.

00:09:46,230	S5:
Okay. And as I usually like a neighbor that reports them or someone driving by.

00:09:51,269	S4:
Uh, yeah, it could be. It could be a neighbor. It could be just driving by. It could be police. It could be my staff. It could be water staff. Um, you know, just somebody that knows that there's a, um, you know, a restriction in place and concerned with the use and, and just as a, as a provides me a heads up just to educate the residents.

00:10:14,629	S1:
Tim, I just had a question. I mean, we're we're still early in the year here at it's may is this is this pretty significant for this time of year. Have we seen this previously or. I feel like we usually get this later in the summer when it gets to this point.

00:10:27,230	S4:
Yeah. So so that's it's kind of changed this year. Um, typically before this got embedded into our, uh, registration, um, we would go off of our permit. We have a permit as well, and that has some restrictions in it. Um, But also our local bylaw. So not to really kind of get in the weeds on this, but we used to have, um, you know, the select board would make, uh, I'd come in front of you the select board and make a vote. I would look at the river levels, um, and we have certain triggers that if it's over or underneath a certain discharge, uh, cubic feet per second for three consecutive days, I would watch it and then I would say, hey, we haven't gotten any rain. I think we need to increase the restrictions. Um, that's typically how I did it over the last few years. This is new, uh, this drought management plan that the DEP has put together and embedded in our withdrawal registration is new to all communities. Um, even communities that didn't that didn't even have a permit, that had all those restrictions in it and only had a withdrawal registration. These now, this drought management plan is is it actually was just voted on actually I think there was an appeal going on and I think they they voted in DPP's favor. Um, they, uh, they have the authority to, uh, to include that in our registration, uh, and enforce it as well. Uh, for and for us to implement it as a community. So it's a little different than it's been, but, uh, it kind of actually works better because when us are so close that we're all basically on the same plane now. Uh, so somebody that sees Watering and Wenham and Hamilton has a different restriction. It just it because when I'm does not have a permit. So we would sometimes have restrictions that Wenham wouldn't have. Uh, so now everybody is on the same playing field. Um, so it's just more, um, community wide, regional wide. Um, but it's also, uh, enforced now, uh, by the DEP.

Okay. 00:12:37,909	S1:
That's helpful. Thanks, Tim. Yeah.

Yep. 00:12:40,330	S2:
So?

00:12:40,769	S6:
So I have a question. Um, Tim. Um, it looks like that these restrictions are based upon region and not necessarily say, Hamilton gets an inch of water, but Amesbury doesn't. Everybody has to adhere to these restrictions. Do I understand that correctly or are they going to monitor each town individually?

00:13:06,129	S4:
Uh, so right now it's like the northeast region. Uh, so there was a I can share with you. Um, there was a DEP notice that went out, uh, that I got in an email today kind of explains, uh, where they are, where we are with the level, uh, level two significant drought. It shows a map of the regions that are within the level two. And there are some still within the level one. Um, but it explains has a lot of, um, narrative as well as some links to the drought management plan. Uh, happy to share that with you. But it is a regional. Regional look now instead of an individual. Individual town. City. Um.

Focus. 00:13:47,840	S6:
Right. Well, that's that's what I'm looking at. And I'm just I'm just unsure about. About how I feel about this.

00:13:57,720	S7:
Tim. Does it. Yeah. Does it affect, um, private wells that are within our watershed, or is it just for the.

00:14:05,440	S1:
There's a section.

00:14:06,279	S7:
On our services.

00:14:07,480	S6:
Yeah.

00:14:08,200	S7:
Fourth page. I probably will get far enough on page four. They have, um, yeah.

00:14:12,799	S8:
There's specifics to, uh.

00:14:15,799	S6:
The very last.

00:14:16,480	S8:
Page.

00:14:16,960	S7:
Private wells. Thank you.

00:14:18,639	S4:
Yep.

00:14:19,279	S8:
Yeah. Of course, household businesses.

00:14:22,120	S7:
Well, should conserve water by right now.

00:14:26,120	S4:
Now, some businesses and some, some other, you know, um, like from myopia, for example, they have their own, uh, registration. Um, so it does and there are golf course. There are obviously some arrangements, I'm sure, that they've made, just like other golf courses in the area. Um, you know, they have, uh, you know, they it's they're not governed by the same or registration that Hamilton has. They have their own. Um, so I know that's been brought up several times. Uh, people ask me about myopia. They are kind of an independent entity, uh, within Hamilton.

00:15:04,379	S5:
And, Tim, is there any effort to quantify those restrictions and whether towns are abiding by those in any way, shape or form? I mean, presumably the town keeps track of how much water we're extracting. Does that do these? Um, actually.

00:15:22,899	S4:
I don't know how DEP looks at this. Um, I know it's been a conversation at several of our local kind of water. Water meetings. Um, you know, it's, you know, Hamilton. I look specifically at that. We do see a great, you know, a when we see decrease in irrigation use, we do see a decrease in our, our, um, you know, our finished water and our, our, our pumps at the plant, um, irrigation use does is is a lot it's kind of an unknown or um, people don't really understand, I guess, how much water is being used by those systems. Um, you know, so we, I do work with some people, you know, if they have like, if they have a lawn and they just plant a new lawn, uh, and then all of a sudden now, um, you know, take, you know, these restrictions are in place and they spent, you know, $20,000 on a new lawn. I'll ask them, they'll call me, we'll work out a schedule for them to kind of try to, um, specifically zone off that area, uh, you know, water at night, uh, just to try to work with them. But if, you know, if you have a lush green lawn, that's where I think that's where we would look at educating the public. Um, that, you know, a brown lawn is not a deadline. It's just it's just dormant. Um, and, um, you know, it's I do look at it individually, but most of the time, if it's a lush green lawn, we'll send a letter out saying, hey, you know, like there's a restriction in place. Please, please make arrangements to terminate, uh, use at this time.

So. 00:17:02,899	S1:
Well, Tim, I moved to a clover seed lawn, which stays green longer, so don't be.

00:17:07,819	S4:
That's the.

00:17:08,140	S5:
Way to.

00:17:08,339	S4:
Go.

00:17:12,619	S4:
Weeds, weeds and clovers have purposes, you know. They're green as well, so. Yeah. No, it's, uh, it's something that I think from this point forward, because of the way DEP has implemented this into a registration. Uh, we don't really have any choice to not abide by it. So, um, I don't mind coming in front of you and letting Joe know if, um, levels increase. Decrease, uh, you know, pushing the message out through social media, through the message board. Um, it could. Not saying it will, but it could go back and forth for a period of time, which, you know, it's it's something that, uh, you know, coming in front of you. I don't mind it. I just know that it could change. Um, you know, it could decrease again if we get a significant rain in June. Um.

So. 00:18:07,039	S1:
Great. Thank you.

Tim. 00:18:08,880	S8:
Yep. Thanks, Tim.

00:18:11,720	S1:
Anyone else on on zoom that we wanted to make a public comment.

00:18:18,720	S3:
Does not appear so.

00:18:19,559	S1:
I'm not seeing any hands raised. Okay. Uh, we'll move on. So next is, uh, select board committee liaison report. So I know we just got our liaison assignments last meeting. We may not have had a chance to connect with everyone, but, um. If you have any updates, we'll go down the line. So, Rosie, if you wanted to give any updates.

00:18:35,430	S6:
Yeah, I had a few things I wanted to talk about. Um, um, I visited the tree nursery up in New Hampshire. Will we have some, um, leftover Arpa money on deposit to provide trees? And they gave me some wonderful suggestions for trees. Um, and it looks like with our budget, we would be able to have 25 to 30 trees. Um, I've also spoken to Pete, the assistant DPW, um, director, and he has said that the town has adequate vehicles to go and pick them up. And so places so far that have been designated as good, uh, good locations, um, positive locations are the schools I have spoken to, the, um, um, facilities manager up at the high school, and they were interested in some trees up there. Peyton Park with the renovation, I think that would be a good use of some of the trees. Certainly town hall that had trees removed for the renovation and to rededicate trees to World War Two soldiers who whose families had donated a tree and were old and and diseased and needed to be removed, and then finally, residents. Certainly not not least. And and residents. So that's one project. And that involves many entities. Um, and regards to in to the art exhibition project at the town hall reopening, I've been to the high school and have seen some of the amazing artwork from the high school students, and the art director there has offered to help with this program, as have the friends of the Arts, and the CoA board is going to reach out to senior artists in the area. Tim Olson gave me a breathtaking tour of the new memorial Room, and it looks like there's lots of available space there, so we can accept lots of artwork and encourage people and students, high school students, to send in their art. It can be old art or or new art. Um, and then finally, this is, um, this is the Hamilton. This is for you, Ben. The Hamilton Historical Society reached out to me and were asking me if I would, if I am the selectman who is helping them, and I said I wasn't. You were the person, but I said I would talk to you and maybe we could trade library trustee for the historical society.

00:21:32,089	S8:
Oh that's great.

00:21:33,450	S6:
If if that if that worked for.

00:21:35,170	S8:
You.

00:21:35,529	S7:
That's fine by.

00:21:36,170	S8:
Me.

00:21:36,410	S6:
Okay, so, Mimi, I'll be calling you tomorrow. Okay. So thank you very much.

00:21:41,849	S8:
Thanks, Rosie.

Okay. 00:21:43,170	S5:
Can I, uh. The tree thing is amazing. That's that's really awesome. Um. That's pretty exciting stuff. Uh, on on the patent park thing. Um, would that go through the parks department so that they made sure that the placement of the trees didn't interfere with any of the upgrades that were going to be happening?

00:22:02,609	S3:
Yeah. Yeah. It would track between the DPW Assistant Director Peacock. That's why Rosie was talking about Pete, and also with in line with the with the locations identified in the pet park master plan.

So. 00:22:17,529	S8:
Yeah. Cool.

Yeah. 00:22:19,329	S7:
All right, Mr.

Rosie. 00:22:20,809	S1:
Ben, any updates from you?

00:22:22,730	S7:
Not at this time. I still need to actually get connected. I missed the fin con one last week, unfortunately, but I'm gonna be there next week.

00:22:30,720	S1:
Lee, anything from you?

00:22:31,759	S5:
Um, no. I've reached out to all of them, uh, sent emails. Uh, and I've heard back from them about when their meetings are. But, uh, there's not been any meetings yet.

00:22:40,759	S3:
Wednesday at five. Huh? Wednesday at five. Human human rights commission.

00:22:45,759	S5:
Oh. Oh, yes, I have that on my calendar.

Thanks. 00:22:48,839	S8:
I forgot what.

00:22:49,880	S3:
I'll.

00:22:50,240	S1:
Um. I'll just. Quick update. I did connect with, uh, Sue McLaughlin on the Tobacco Woods Land Management Committee. So she is going to be seeking another term of three years, which is great. Um, she didn't know that they have an active committee now. Then they're working with Gordon College on some trail work. Uh, and then she also noted that, uh, with Greenbelt, uh, purchasing the the rich property, they're now working on a trail map for that, so I'll. Really exciting stuff. So, um, I'm glad that that committee is active. So that's all I have.

00:23:18,839	S6:
And I just. I'm sorry, I forgot. I'm so excited about the trees and the art exhibit. I forgot about this Eva. So just to bring everyone up to date, there was a proposal for, uh, nonconforming use at 957 Bay road, and the CBA ultimately decided that it was more, um.

00:23:47,099	S3:
More substantially more detrimental than the the.

00:23:49,819	S8:
Current preexisting existing.

00:23:51,299	S6:
Right. So it is this is just my comment. It is my hope that the owner of the property comes back with perhaps a a plan that will, um, serve to improve the area while also meeting the needs of the surrounding neighborhood.

00:24:11,259	S8:
Great. Thank you.

00:24:12,180	S1:
Thank you. Rosie. All right. Moving on to the consent agenda. So under that, we have the approve the minutes of April 6th, 2026 board meeting and then also accepting a donation gift in the amount of $125 to the Hamilton Council on Aging from Robert Natoli. Do I have a motion or if anyone wants to separate either those out, we can do that as well. Otherwise, I'll take a motion.

00:24:36,279	S6:
So moved.

00:24:38,039	S1:
Is there a second?

00:24:39,000	S7:
And could we hold. I mean, well, actually I'll, I'll second it with a caveat, just to kind of expand a little bit on the donation. So we recognize that. But sure. All right.

00:24:49,400	S1:
Well we have a motion made and seconded so we can open it up for you wanted to discuss.

00:24:54,519	S7:
Well yeah. Just always like to kind of spend a little time to thank those people who, you know, generously dip into their, their savings accounts to make these donations small and large. It's incredibly important for the community and just, you know. Um, so I want to say a special thank you to, to Robert. And, um, I'm sure the Council on Aging really appreciates it.

00:25:17,200	S1:
Yeah, yeah. Very generous. Great gift and can be spent at the discretion of the coach. For programs and services. So it's a really.

00:25:23,299	S7:
Great.

00:25:25,940	S5:
Thank you for checking that.

00:25:28,579	S1:
All right. All in favor?

00:25:30,859	S8:
All right.

00:25:31,220	S7:
All right.

00:25:34,099	S1:
All right. We'll dig into the agenda. So first item we have the appointment of Amy Wallach to the Hamilton Development Corporation. I don't know if we have Amy on Josh on the zoom.

00:25:45,740	S3:
Nope. I'm surprised she isn't.

Um. 00:25:51,500	S3:
I can reach out. You can hold the appointment to the next meeting. And I know that she was. I believe that we have the letter from the board chair that she met with the Hamilton Development Corporation at their last meeting and was recommended for unanimously by the board to be appointed. Generally, you guys have the right to ask somebody to be here before the appointment, but you can also choose to not require it, so it's up to you.

00:26:17,289	S5:
A quick question. I thought somewhere that I read that the moderator makes that appointment.

00:26:22,210	S3:
No, not in the HTC.

00:26:24,809	S1:
So she is.

00:26:25,609	S3:
She appointments not not to the HTC.

00:26:27,730	S1:
So the Hamilton Development Corp. recommended her. Yes. Yeah okay. Yeah I mean they they they I mean if the Hamilton Development Corporation made a favorable recommendation, you know, we had a resume. I mean, I think she's definitely has qualifications, you know, um, you know, working in real estate as a broker. Um, a lot of different leadership positions in town, especially working at the community house. Um, I mean, I'm, I'm fine moving forward with, with a vote if, uh, unless otherwise if others want to wait and see and have her come in and speak.

00:26:59,690	S8:
Yeah.

00:27:00,930	S7:
We get a letter. Joe. Sorry. From, uh, the HTC.

00:27:05,450	S3:
Was the email, not it was. It wasn't a hard copy of the email in your, um.

00:27:09,769	S7:
Just the resumé.

00:27:11,089	S1:
Application and then the resume.

00:27:14,049	S7:
Let's see. I didn't see it. normally I know they submit a letter of approval or they probably emailed you, but.

00:27:20,509	S3:
I but I thought I'd printed out included in the packet. I knew I had.

00:27:25,710	S7:
To pack it, so it's my thing, so.

00:27:30,630	S3:
I so nope, it's not here. I don't know why it isn't here. I apologize, it's my fault. We'll just, uh. I know that Rick Mitchell had sent an email. I my plan was to include it in the packet. I remember printing it out. I don't know why it didn't make it to the packet. I apologize.

Um. 00:27:51,390	S7:
Tom.

00:27:52,309	S1:
All right. Okay. Do we want to hold this and then wait till next meeting and we can get the email? We can get anybody on board.

00:27:58,549	S5:
When is our. Our next meeting is June.

00:28:01,190	S3:
June 1st. Um, June 1st I will I will say I did send a note to the chair earlier today. As of right now, we don't have any other business that the board needs to take up for June 1st I sent you're going to have a meeting on the 15th and you're going to have the workshop on the 29th. I asked the chair if he wanted to consider having heard back from him. I don't know, but I put it up that he may want to consider not having a meeting on the first, because.

00:28:22,930	S7:
I know that there was a, uh, there was a I don't know what to call it, but a grant made to HTC as well. Right. Or that they were dispersing some funds for some projects upcoming.

00:28:34,089	S8:
For.

00:28:34,250	S6:
The park. The pocket park? Is that what you mean?

00:28:37,289	S7:
I want to say it was a couple hundred thousand.

00:28:39,049	S6:
Yeah, that's.

00:28:39,450	S8:
The pocket park.

00:28:40,450	S7:
And so I don't want to hold up their work either if we're.

00:28:43,849	S1:
Yeah. I mean if we're if we're potentially pushing out the June 1st meeting, um, you know, we're pushing this out potentially a month.

00:28:50,529	S5:
They meet on the third.

00:28:52,130	S1:
Yeah.

00:28:52,289	S5:
Which would definitely.

00:28:53,569	S8:
Be.

Yeah. 00:28:55,690	S6:
You know, the only the only thought I, I agree with what everybody is saying. My only thought is maybe in the future we could be more diligent about asking people to be here just in case we do have.

00:29:06,130	S1:
Yeah. I think it's always nice just to get, you know, meet them and kind of, you know, hear a little bit about their, their background. I mean, we do have a resume. We do have the.

00:29:13,150	S3:
That's the email from Rick. I apologize, I can't pull it up on this hop top, but it's right there. You can read it if you want to read it.

00:29:19,589	S1:
Want me to read it? Yeah. It says hi Joe. As noted in Scott Dern's HGC resignation letter in earlier email, we would like to request the SBA approve appointment of Amy Wallach to replace Scott. The HGC board voted unanimously on Wednesday, May 6th, to support her joining the board attached to her application and resume. If you have any questions or additional information, please let me know. Um, yeah. I mean, I think, you know, she got the full unanimous support of the HTC. We have a resume. Um, and if we're pushing this off a month, um, and they're going to be meeting on June 3rd, I think it makes sense to get them, get Amy on board as soon as possible to start working. So I'm comfortable moving forward and, you know, happy to entertain a motion.

00:29:58,990	S6:
Sure. I move that we appoint Amy Amy wallet to the HTC second.

00:30:08,430	S8:
All right.

00:30:09,869	S1:
We have a motion and a second.

00:30:11,619	S7:
One last thing I want.

00:30:12,539	S1:
Any discussion.

00:30:14,539	S7:
Or discussion? I agree with Rosie that I do think, you know, if if we can have someone, a representative of that committee, ideally, you know, the person is being nominated. I think it is important, um, that, that we get to meet them. I mean, ideally they come in in person to, um, if we're all here. Just be nice.

00:30:34,859	S8:
All right.

00:30:35,859	S7:
Have you?

00:30:36,819	S1:
Yeah, I think that's a that's a good protocol. You know, I mean, it's always nice to put a name to a face, so.

00:30:43,180	S6:
I think we had to discuss that in the past as well, which is why. Because people were being appointed without us having an opportunity to put a face to a name. And it. So we had decided that yes, we would like to see that happen. So this is just a reiteration of that. So yeah, but I understand certainly we understand in this case that we don't want to put it out for a month.

00:31:09,960	S8:
Yeah.

00:31:10,359	S7:
Joe. Is that something that for the committee chairs that you could just. Yeah. Have a blast and let them know that that's sort of our.

00:31:17,359	S3:
In my in a bite. Might be a miscommunication on our end too. We. I got the email from Rick. I printed out the email intended to include in the packet. I may not have told him, hey, it's going to be on the agenda once it goes to the agenda. I normally like Lori would check up on that for me, but she's been, uh, so a lot more a lot more part time. So, you know, I'm operating without my right hand a little bit. So we have hired a new right hand, permanent right hand to start on June 8th. But I, you know, it's very possible that I missed that. So sorry.

Apologies. 00:31:47,119	S6:
One of the rare things, Joe. It's not not.

00:31:49,759	S8:
Not a big issue. Yeah, yeah.

00:31:52,000	S1:
Any more discussion on this one? All right. We have a motion that's made and seconded. Uh, all in favor?

00:31:57,680	S8:
Aye.

00:31:59,200	S1:
All right. Unanimous. All right. Next agenda item is the approve expenditure of $3,160 from the Perpetual Care Fund to pay for annual grub treatment at the Hamilton Cemetery. For his tombstone. Is he going to talk to this one? Yep.

00:32:15,940	S4:
I'm still here.

00:32:17,460	S7:
Are the grubs?

00:32:18,579	S4:
Yep, yep. So, uh, this is just our annual treatment. Uh, it's been very effective over the last, I think, 4 or 5 years that we've been doing it. Um, just a continuation of trying to control, um, you know, and create the, you know, the the special place of Hamilton Cemetery is with the, with the grass. And, uh, it seems like everybody in Hamilton really likes and enjoys, um, that sacred spot. So we just try to keep it in the best shape we can, um, you know, and do these treatments are necessary, uh, to, to get the the grass and new grass to grow and thrive and and fill in, um, to make it a beautiful, uh, sacred spot.

00:33:05,690	S7:
What is the treatment?

00:33:08,849	S4:
So they use what I believe what they've been using is a Singaporean, um, which is a preventative group control. Um, it's a or they have been doing back and I think that's what they used uh, last year.

00:33:23,769	S7:
So when do they apply it?

00:33:27,009	S4:
They apply it really anytime spring through fall. Uh, they definitely like to apply it, uh, in the rain. Uh, like a light rain is the most effective.

00:33:38,049	S7:
Is it like it's safe to be in contact with for for people, kids, etc.?

00:33:43,730	S4:
Yep, yep. Yeah. We've used, uh, that's why we save a tree is, uh, we picked them specifically because of the, the treatment that they, uh, recommended.

00:33:57,690	S1:
Uh, Tim, is this. Um, I know we do this annually. Is this price about consistent or is, um, you know, with probably some modest inflation, maybe, but kind of consistent with what we've been spending in the past.

00:34:09,230	S4:
Yeah. I think it's just, uh, maybe about 100 bucks more than last year. Okay. I think something like that.

So. 00:34:17,389	S6:
And, Tim, I have to say, since we did that, um, sort of reseeding of the cemetery maybe 4 or 5 years ago, it has looked really, really nice. I mean, it's always been well kept, but the fact that the grass died from the grubs was just really very unpleasant and very distressing, distressing to, um, residents who went to visit the cemetery. But I have to say, it's looked beautiful since since that, um, reseeding has been done and the DPW and the cemetery crew have taken really, really good care of that. So it's very much appreciated.

00:34:59,389	S4:
Thank you. Yeah. We got, uh, this fall, we should be doing a heavy planting. Last year we had the drought and then a heavy winter. So did really have any the chance to plant in the fall. And then we had a long winter and and kind of a short spring in a way. Um, to try to gear up. But I think hopefully this fall we'll be doing some planting again. Um, in some of those areas, uh, that, uh, you know, after following this grub treatment, uh, should take, uh, pretty well with the grasses and seeding. Hydro seeding.

00:35:36,449	S1:
All.

00:35:39,010	S1:
Right. That I'll, uh. I'll take a motion.

00:35:42,530	S6:
I move that we, um, accept we.

00:35:46,929	S8:
Approve.

00:35:47,570	S6:
The expenditure of $3,160 from the perpetual care fund to pay for the annual grub treatment at the Hamilton Cemetery.

00:35:57,489	S7:
Second.

00:35:59,170	S1:
All right. Motion made and seconded. Any more discussion? All in favor? Aye aye.

00:36:05,309	S7:
Aye.

00:36:06,469	S1:
All right.

00:36:07,030	S4:
Thank you.

00:36:07,949	S1:
Thank you.

00:36:08,710	S8:
Appreciate it. You.

Tim. 00:36:09,710	S3:
Thank you.

Tim. 00:36:10,309	S4:
All right. Have a good night.

00:36:13,070	S1:
All right. Blowing through this agenda now. Um, select board policy review. Um, so I know this is something that Bill's talked about a bunch. Um, and just sort of getting a handle on all the different policies that we have as a board. You know, which ones do we need to, you know, dig into and maybe review? Um, do we need to create any new ones? Um, and then, you know, identifying which ones might need to be updated. So. Um, I think this will be a time to talk about a couple of policies of what we think needs to be updated, and then maybe selecting a member or two to sort of work on some of those policies. Uh, I know Joe included in the packet two, which have been sort of, you know, on our radar for the past year or so. Uh, one being the sign banner policy, which has come up a lot. You know, we're often approving. You know, requests for the Hamilton one, a Little League and other folks and the, um, the, you know, sports teams putting up their signs. And I think we want to just make. Sure that that's airtight, that we know what we're, we're voting on when we when we get those requests. And then, um, we've also gotten a lot of requests about using government property, using the senior center. And what are the what are the restrictions around that of when we can and we can rent that property out. So I think those are two of the policies we're looking at. But are there others that people have flagged or thought about in the past? Um, I know Lee, you're you're new to the board, so feel free to, you know, think of this is something you haven't seen yet. Let us know. But, um, are there other policies that we're thinking of that might need to be tweaked a bit?

00:37:43,530	S8:
Yeah.

00:37:43,889	S6:
Well, I think in terms of the senior center, we should now include, um, the town hall Memorial room, because that's a beautiful big space. And with the art exhibition, hoping that other residents would want to use it for other things. And how do we do that safely so that people aren't sort of running through the town hall? I mean, not not that I think that there would necessarily be any damage, but just to sort of think about the safety of that.

00:38:15,159	S3:
Yeah, I think we had talked about initially when this had come up, part of it was because we had lost the town hall and people were looking for places to hold meetings, and it was a lot of talk about what, what do you want to allow? And then broadly, we were thinking eventually we going to move back into town hall. We're gonna have this really large meeting space. You know, what would that be available for? Um, but I definitely think that at this point we can if a the board's supports a subcommittee to work with myself and town staff, we could come up with some ideas. We do have a draft policy that was put together by town Tom McInerney, uh, over a year ago. And along with an accompanying license. So you'd approve the policy and then use the license to govern the the use of the rooms, and you can have it be for the Memorial Room and Koa, or you can eliminate Koa now. And a lot of people have have wanted to be careful about overuse of the Koa. It's really meant to be a safe place for seniors. That main room, or even with the two rooms now are places for the seniors. And we didn't want to risk, um, in the long term, um, displacing them at all. So, uh, it's up to the board. I would support having 1 or 2 members work with some staff to come up with to take Tom's policy, talk around it, tear it up, redline it, and bring it back to the board for consideration.

00:39:30,579	S6:
Well, I was supposed to be part of that committee. And circumstances changed in my life, and I've been pretty out of that the loop for a while. But, um, if the board was wanting me to continue doing that, I, I would be happy to, to pick up where I left off, which was pretty much at the beginning.

So. 00:39:50,380	S8:
Yeah.

00:39:50,699	S7:
Yeah, I mean.

00:39:52,699	S1:
I know we have a policy on policies. I see this in the. I haven't read it.

00:39:59,679	S3:
Yeah, I just I just printed out what shows on our website. So you'll see that we have a lot of policies already. Yeah. Um, and some of them, they're intensive.

00:40:07,599	S7:
This is all.

00:40:08,519	S3:
This is all the select board policies. There are other there are other internal policies, departmental policies and things that that are really managed by the staff and department heads and town manager. There are other things that are in your bylaws, but these are the policies that the Select board adopts and kind of enforces.

00:40:25,840	S1:
Maybe I should just need to read this policy. But like as far as the process, we would like you said assign a subcommittee that works with you on a particular policy and then sort of go through a review and then bring it back to this board.

00:40:38,840	S7:
To.

00:40:39,320	S1:
Vote.

Okay. 00:40:42,320	S3:
The two, the two that have been talked a lot about the last few years are the the banner and sign policy and the, you know, use of of town facilities.

00:40:49,920	S7:
The one I'm thinking of at the moment which, which came up was around like a, um, abandoned properties or blades or things like that.

00:40:57,030	S3:
So that was actually it's actually by law was a it was actually a by law, it was adopted by town meeting. It was put forward and voted on as a general bylaw, not as a zoning bylaw. So it's a general bylaw under the town's general bylaws.

00:41:07,909	S7:
Were part.

00:41:08,909	S3:
Of that.

00:41:09,630	S7:
Yeah. Oh wow. Okay. All right.

00:41:11,429	S8:
Yeah okay.

00:41:14,190	S1:
Okay. So we have the senior. So you interested in taking that back up and.

00:41:19,150	S6:
Absolutely.

00:41:19,949	S8:
Yes.

00:41:20,670	S6:
And and incorporate the town hall meeting room with that and see if there's a way we can, um, incorporate it, make it a dual policy or not. We'll just. I'm happy to explore that with you, Joe and whomever else.

00:41:34,670	S8:
Yep.

00:41:36,030	S5:
Just real quick for clarification. Can you describe a little bit what this looks like, this process. So Rose is just going to look at the policy.

00:41:45,469	S3:
So we had town council draft the policy. And it will be a little bit different right. So a lot of the policies You'll see some of these were adopted, you know, in 2022. Some of them were adopted way earlier. Some of them, they don't even say when they were adopted. So they don't even all look the same on the town website. A subcommittee could look and say, hey, we want to make these all look uniform going forward. It's understandable why they don't because they happen at different times with different boards and different town managers and things. So it's understandable why they don't look uniform. If you wanted to make them look uniform, we could we could take that on. If you just want to look at the existing policies that you want to update, we can do that. It's really up to you. But the idea would be that we'd start with, you know, what we've done with policy since I've been here, as we try to have town council draft something that we that we feel will be legal and enforceable and then let the board make changes.

00:42:34,690	S7:
Um, and so the to Tom's point and to your, to your question, it's, you know, the board may schedule any hearings or meetings it deems necessary for discussion. You know, so there's this document as well. I don't know if it was meant to apply only to new policies or notes or changing existing policies. Um, so. And then procedurally, you know, if there's any of these that, you know, someone raised their hand and says, yeah, let's take a look at that or unpack it. You imagine, Joe, as long as we're not having a quorum like two. So two people could participate in any one drafting or revisions. Um, so you don't need to bring it back here. Yeah, we.

00:43:14,989	S3:
Would still we would still, um, advertise that, but wouldn't necessarily have to be held at night. Or you could hold it in any day, time, day or time. And we probably, for a public opponent would just manage it with zoom or something to record the conversation in a subcommittee, even if it's not a quorum, still has a kind of a requirement to, you know, conduct its business in the open. But it doesn't mean that you have to, like, go out of your way to you aren't making decisions. You're you're working towards something that you bring back to the board. So. Um, we we do an extra level of advertising and being transparent for the public, but you would get to work on it and make recommendations.

00:43:56,210	S3:
On how to change it.

00:44:00,170	S1:
Okay, so the second one. So I know, Rosie, if you're if you're interested in the senior center one, we can we can have you on on that one. The other one was the that I know Bill Olson I don't want to steal his thunder here, but I know he he loves the banners. I know the banner policy. And he's been we talked about it several times, so. Yeah.

Um. 00:44:18,889	S7:
The one that's in the packet that says temporary, is that separate from the regular one or are there there are two of these or are there the one.

00:44:27,889	S3:
So the the banner sign policy that's on this list, when you click on it, that's what you get is so it's for temporary print for temporary signs and banners.

00:44:36,289	S1:
Has this been reworked by town council at all or is it.

00:44:38,730	S3:
No no that's what's that's just what was adopted years ago by the town okay.

00:44:43,090	S7:
And then the dimensional requirements is that set by by zoning. Is that in the zoning?

00:44:48,510	S3:
It's not a zoning issue. You've you've been setting the dimensional requirements on that. What you just based on what the board feels is too big or too small something.

00:44:57,349	S7:
Right. You remember.

00:44:59,030	S3:
So there's a there's a section in the zoning for permanent signs, uh, related to commercial districts and such. But there isn't. But these this isn't necessarily that you're, you're you'd be voting on what kinds of banners or signs to allow to be hung on town property. And you have the right.

00:45:15,309	S7:
They have some. There's somewhere in one of the bylaws. I think there's something even around temporary signs.

00:45:21,030	S3:
I can, I, I can look at the general bylaws and get back to you on that.

00:45:30,190	S1:
Anyone have any interest in digging into this one?

00:45:33,750	S7:
I want to steal it from Bill. He's.

Yeah. 00:45:37,550	S1:
I mean, I'm happy to I'm happy to work on it. I will I will talk and talk to Bill and see if he I know he's had a particular interest in this policy over the last year or so and beyond and wanting to rework it. And I know we looked at it a while back. Um, so I can I can coordinate with Bill to see if he wants to, to take it, or I can work on it. I'm happy to be a part of it.

00:45:57,380	S8:
Okay.

00:45:57,780	S7:
And our.

00:46:02,940	S7:
Public comment policy is that on here?

00:46:06,460	S8:
We just.

00:46:06,980	S6:
Slogged through that one.

00:46:08,340	S8:
Didn't we?

00:46:08,900	S7:
Yeah. I'm just looking for it on the left.

00:46:11,059	S1:
That's why that was new, though, right?

00:46:13,380	S3:
That was new. It should still be on the website. It doesn't look like it is right now, so we'll get it up. Yeah. The good news is we're doing a new website right now, so we'll, uh.

00:46:24,219	S7:
That's good. I just want to make sure it's up on the website. This is the official list because I don't think we need to revisit it. It's in good shape.

00:46:33,980	S1:
Now, Joe. So I'm looking at some of these dates. Um, and I'm just, you know, some of them go back ten years. I mean, is there any requirement that we do some sort of regular cadence of just automatic review of them? Or is it fine that we're you know, we have.

00:46:46,880	S3:
There's no requirement. If you feel that if you or any member of the board feels that an existing policy is is no longer properly serving the town and you want to revisit it, you just have to bring it to the board and ask them to consider it.

00:46:59,159	S7:
Maybe I'll.

00:46:59,920	S1:
Maybe we can dig into I mean, I'm just looking like leaf collection policy 1993.

00:47:04,480	S8:
You know. Yeah, that might.

00:47:06,000	S6:
Be due for an.

00:47:06,679	S8:
Update.

00:47:07,119	S1:
Yeah. I mean, I'm sure maybe I'm sure there's been no changes in our leaf collection since then, but who knows. You know, it's that's.

00:47:13,079	S3:
And it's some of that is probably at this point dictated and therefore um included in the contract with our, our, our trash hauler. Yeah. Um, although I would say making that assumption might be wrong because the policy was drafted in 1993 and we brought Casella in in 2017 under dire circumstances or 2016 under dire circumstances. So maybe it maybe they didn't. Maybe they just came, you know, did with what was the the practice had been without actually consulting the bylaw. I couldn't do it for sure. That was before I got here.

00:47:45,380	S6:
Does our leaf policy. I think it works well, right?

00:47:48,579	S3:
Yeah. It's, um.

00:47:50,539	S7:
I don't.

00:47:50,940	S3:
Know, it seems already jumped off, but yeah, I, I, you know, we have we have regular leaf pick up tied to the trash contract with Casella on a monthly cadence during, during the times of the year and when you need.

00:48:03,099	S8:
It.

Right. 00:48:03,460	S6:
It's just a few times a year. And, I mean, I can only speak from my neighborhood, but tends to run pretty smoothly. They come when they're supposed to, and I've not heard of any difficulties with it. But I do agree with, with Tom that we should.

00:48:20,940	S8:
At least.

00:48:21,900	S6:
Look at it, right? Because it's.

00:48:23,579	S8:
So.

00:48:24,260	S1:
Oh man, it.

00:48:24,860	S8:
Looks I.

00:48:25,340	S6:
Know the the typing.

00:48:26,619	S1:
It was on a typewriter.

00:48:30,099	S3:
1993 there was, there was internet, but there was a lot of use of internet by town town staff at this point.

00:48:36,500	S8:
So yeah.

00:48:37,739	S1:
Uh oh. That's long too, Joe.

00:48:39,860	S7:
I don't know if we're taking notes about who wants to look at what. I'd be interested to look at the abatement of high water bill policy. Just I don't know if it needs to needs a refresh or not, but I.

00:48:53,760	S1:
Think, yeah, we we did that in my first term. Right. It was like I think yeah.

00:48:57,480	S3:
You took a bill policy. There was there was some the policy that's on this from 2008. But I know the Selectboard made some adjustments to the way that.

00:49:06,039	S1:
You know, changes like in my first year.

00:49:08,000	S3:
And that's not that's not shown on the why that doesn't look like it's shown on the website right now.

00:49:12,039	S7:
So yeah, that's the only reason I suggested it was because it was 2008. And so and I was looking at this and I also thinking about our rates having just been restructured, just checking that the math all still makes sense in that we're.

00:49:25,280	S1:
Yeah, I think.

00:49:25,760	S7:
That makes sense.

00:49:26,559	S1:
I know yeah, I know we did. We can get to the version that we updated back a few years back, but it may may need another.

00:49:34,599	S7:
I mean, we could just have honestly what I, I just see this language around exceeding, you know, their their typical bill by 35,000 gallons or 100%, whichever is greater. Um, and then it's, you know, leaks have occurred within six month periods, etc., etc.. So just going back through this and seeing, is this still all applicable? Is there a current? Yeah. Current rates are current ability to kind of get people notified in a timely manner, get their meters fixed in a timely manner, etc.. Yeah, yeah.

00:50:09,710	S1:
Because Joe, I guess your opinion and I know what you've done in the past, but it doesn't make sense just to have a small committee that looks at all the we've put a bunch of policies together, or should we just have one select board member sort of own a policy? I mean, what's more efficient from your office? It's like just a a smaller group of us to look at.

00:50:28,150	S3:
To be honest, it would be a little easier for staff if there was a subcommittee of two people that was looking at all of them and then making recommendations to which ones we.

00:50:36,889	S1:
Yeah, I think that.

00:50:37,769	S3:
As opposed to trying to keep track of what five different members all want to.

00:50:41,210	S1:
Yeah.

00:50:41,690	S3:
Want to, you know, dig in on, um, it'd just be a lot more emails, a lot more opportunity for missed.

00:50:47,730	S1:
So I'll allow you to reconsider your, your you're throwing your hat in the ring. If it's that now that it's not just one policy.

00:50:53,769	S6:
Yeah, well, just, um, let me know what the timeline is, and I'm I'm. I mean, I'm always ready to dig into some project.

So. 00:51:01,849	S8:
Um.

00:51:02,690	S6:
What what is what are we looking at for a timeline month? Two months?

00:51:08,570	S1:
Uh, I mean, I don't think we have a hard and fast timeline, um.

00:51:12,889	S8:
Ongoing.

00:51:13,610	S1:
But it's been ongoing. I mean, I know the banner policy's been going on since I think my first term wanted to update that, so I think it, um. Yeah, I mean, we're going into the summer, so I think we probably, you know, maybe by fall we'd want to, you know, early fall, have some sort of come back to the board.

00:51:29,010	S8:
Okay. Um, and.

00:51:30,170	S6:
Just refresh my memory. How many are there roughly?

00:51:34,570	S1:
Well, I mean, that's I mean, if we look at all of them, you mean, um.

00:51:37,630	S6:
And that's what you're asking, right?

00:51:39,789	S1:
Well, I think it was more of like identifying a subset of policy that we think, you know, our.

00:51:45,710	S6:
Our meeting.

00:51:47,070	S1:
Or meeting. So not necessarily reviewing the entire list or maybe picking 4 or 5, like, you know, the senior center, the banner, um, the abatement, maybe there's a couple more that we might maybe like 3 or 4 different policies rather than doing the whole comprehensive list.

00:51:59,630	S8:
Sure.

00:51:59,989	S1:
Let me be picking a handful that we think are most prominent.

00:52:03,510	S6:
Yes, I definitely can. Can can give that a look at. And I would discuss that with Joe or and or whomever else. Yeah. The older ones that just look like they might need a little fine tuning. And I think that's a good point that you brought up about the water abatements, because in reality, we I think.

00:52:26,309	S8:
We.

00:52:26,989	S6:
If we have a policy, we're not firm about sticking to it. We treat we treat each each episode as if it's an unique set of facts when the reality is it's one set of facts and we we should make a decision ahead of time what we're going to do and not sort of agonize about what the correct decision is. So yeah, I definitely agree that that should have some, um, some surety to it.

00:52:58,940	S3:
So is that rosy as one member of a subcommittee, is there another member.

00:53:02,340	S7:
For.

00:53:02,500	S8:
Walk.

00:53:03,380	S3:
For.

00:53:03,820	S5:
So so I want a clarification before we keep going down, sir. So is the concern that that in dealing with the water abatement that that whoever is dealing with that is sending emails to the water department asking questions about that and that and that.

00:53:19,380	S3:
The that's the the policy starts with the water department. So when people look at their bill and they realize it's too high, that's when they notice that, you know, they've got something going on and they'll, they'll they have to apply to the water department for an abatement up to a certain level. The board has given the the Public Works director the authority to allow up to a certain level, but if it's over a certain level, it comes to this body to be considered right.

00:53:43,800	S5:
But I guess my question was, is that we were originally talking about having individual members of the Select board actually focus on particular policies. And then it was decided, no, that that wasn't the right way to go.

00:53:56,079	S3:
I don't think anybody's made a decision yet. I think you're talking through the various things so that.

00:53:59,679	S5:
The idea was that there was going to be a smaller, you know, two people that were going to make a decision about what sort of policies were needed. I mean, I'm not at a point where I could select one of those policies and take it on. Um, but, uh, I would like the chance to review it and would be interested in taking out a policy. But, um, so I'm just trying to understand what the advantages are of one.

00:54:21,000	S3:
So. So, Tim, Tom had asked me for my opinion. I think it'd be easier for staff if we had two people to work with to identify which ones we're going to work on. And then if you wanted to break them up individually, that would be easier, but to be trying to work with five different people on different policies without knowing what any timeline cadence when you want to adopt them. So I think it'd be easier to manage the work.

00:54:41,380	S7:
Upfront and them up. There's 35 to 40. Yeah, some of them are pretty recently, uh, been amended or published for the first time. It seems like like being out to consensus here. The stuff that's like ten, 15 or 20 years older, we're all feeling like maybe someone should take a look at that, at those ones. And then I'm also gathering that maybe a reasonable goal for the short term might be that we try to unpack 5 or 6 of these, but not all 35 or 40.

00:55:12,500	S1:
Yeah. I don't think it's I don't think I mean, some of these I don't yeah. I mean some of these are pretty they seem pretty standard that we will not necessarily want to need to dig into. I think there's probably maybe, like you said, 4 or 5 maybe that we want to grab. We already have 2 or 3 that we want to look at. Um, and I think a smaller committee of two people that, you know does a review brings it to the larger board for review? It would make sense, but to Joe's point, I think it makes it cleaner for his staff rather than individually dealing with a, you know, he's got this policy, Ben's got this one.

00:55:42,199	S6:
And to.

00:55:43,679	S8:
Sort.

00:55:43,960	S6:
Of I thought maybe I misunderstood, but I thought the the premise at this point was to look through the policies and look at which ones are fairly recent and then just sort of say, okay, those those can stand for a while and then maybe look at the oldest policies. And those were the, the ones that we should really zero in on. And the sort of the nebulous policies, the using of the Memorial Room and the water abatement. And then the banner policy might be three that we're looking at, definitely only because those are sort of, um, undefined in terms of what the boundaries are, and then look through all of them just generally for, uh, for, for dates. And if they're very antiquated, then those are the ones that we would bring back. And then, uh, that's what I understand, that we would then decide on the, on the subcommittee to really delve into them. Right. Do I understand that correctly?

00:56:46,940	S1:
Yes, I think that I think that's a fair summary. So I think we have three that we're pretty much set on the abatement, the senior center and the banner.

00:56:56,500	S8:
Yep.

00:56:56,980	S1:
Are there any on here? I know we've talked previously about the flag policy. It seems like when we had our meeting about Juneteenth that we may have resolved that, that there was language in there, but we had once talked about modifying that during that meeting, and then we sort of walked that back. But is that something that people want to open up again and look at? We can that's that's been one that we've had conversations about.

00:57:20,179	S6:
Well, I think we didn't at that meeting. I think my objection was we didn't really have a chance to review that policy. So I think if there are some amendments to be made, that certainly should be one. I mean, anything that's going to have an amendment, we should look at.

00:57:36,489	S8:
That.

00:57:37,170	S6:
As well and bring that forward as one of the, um, policies in question.

00:57:50,329	S1:
Okay. Any other policy standing out to anyone?

00:57:59,250	S7:
Looking at the dates on these. Cracked open the one about placement of structures on town property from 2001. There's not a lot in there, but it seems appropriate. Like it's a short.

00:58:12,289	S3:
Basically what I followed to get ready to bring you the monument idea for the last meeting. It was pretty. Just come for the clipboard and let the board make a decision. It's like, what decision? That's all it needs to really be in there. Doesn't have to be. You don't have to get too far of the details. The board does have some leeway to make its own decisions.

So. 00:58:33,349	S7:
Are there you know, this is where am I trying to, like, wrack my brain, like, back through last year's meetings of times where it's like, oh, should we have a policy? Because I think it was like, oh, Tom's running jokes last year too. It's like, we need a policy. Do we need an apology?

00:58:47,829	S1:
I said that a lot. I kept trying to.

00:58:49,110	S7:
Think, too. I just remember that we were joking about not which policies we might need now.

Um. 00:59:00,789	S1:
I mean, we can always just start with these three. I mean, those are three big policies. I think that would probably take some time. Um, you know, especially if we're looking, we want to try to get these back in the fall time. I mean, I think that's I think that's a fair start, unless there are other ones that are really jumping out at anyone.

00:59:15,429	S7:
I think that's good for this. Like trying to get through these in the next 3 or 4 months. Good point.

00:59:21,590	S8:
Yeah.

00:59:22,530	S1:
So do we have another member that would want to join Rosie, I know, Ben, you were interested at one point. Uh, Lee as well. You mentioned, you know, maybe getting involved. Is there anyone that wants to join Rosie on the subcommittee?

00:59:34,409	S7:
Uh, this is a subcommittee to to to then decide which 4 or 5 we look at. Is that what you mean? Or just.

00:59:40,210	S1:
Well, I think I think we're just. I mean, are we agreeing on these three policies, right, that that need to be looked at? I think if we're agreeing on these three that we want to look at.

00:59:48,130	S6:
But we should also go through, just kind of browse through all of them, I think. And, um, just as a sort of a general, um, exercise, I think it's important to, to maybe look at them all based on their dates, and then we know we're going to focus on these three.

01:00:05,889	S1:
Yeah, I think we land on three, definitely. But you could certainly look through others. And if you identify any others that might need some updating, I think at minimum these three policies. And so we would want to, you know, have a two person committee Look at these three policies and then if there are others that they identify in the process, we can certainly look at those as well. But I think at minimum we want to look at these three.

01:00:28,079	S5:
And the expectation for the next meeting would be that the policies would be updated. That would be bringing an update to those policies. Just the discussion.

01:00:36,679	S6:
Just looked at which ones might we want to focus more closely.

01:00:41,199	S1:
Yeah, yeah. Maybe come back and we'll come back and say okay. In addition to those three, we found two additional policies.

01:00:47,639	S7:
And then here's some highlights and comments about the existing policies and things for consideration. Okay. Um, and that way there's we're not. And then maybe some deliberation about whether or not we want to have hearings or meetings about them or things of that nature. Is that does that work, Joe, in terms of like open subcommittees or.

01:01:10,679	S8:
Okay, do we have.

01:01:11,840	S6:
Public meetings specifically like open hearings on policies?

01:01:17,159	S3:
You don't have any specific standing subcommittees. So. We haven't ever done that kind of work. But if you wanted to establish, you know, some subcommittee work, you'd want to think about how to make sure that you're communicating, that you're working with the public and those that you're working on.

01:01:29,460	S8:
Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

Yeah. 01:01:30,940	S6:
Absolutely.

01:01:31,780	S7:
The way it's written for the policy procedures, um, since we can have hearings or or meetings that we deem necessary for discussion.

01:01:43,699	S8:
Right, right, right. Exactly.

Yeah. 01:01:45,699	S7:
Decide along the way, because this isn't going to be a I don't think it necessarily needs to be a standing subcommittee either. So I think depending on the extent of the changes. Right. All right. I mean, as you can see, I'm kind of leaning in a little bit, but I also don't want to exclude anybody from involved. So I'm happy.

01:02:05,099	S5:
Go go go for it. I think on this one and then I'll.

01:02:08,179	S7:
Yeah, we'll do.

01:02:08,699	S5:
One how it goes.

01:02:09,780	S8:
Yeah.

01:02:09,980	S1:
We'll try this one round with doing 3 or 4. Then we'll, we'll jump in with some other ones as well. And I mean there's a whole bunch on there that probably need are quite old. So we can start with three. Maybe. Maybe you add another 1 or 2 if you find something. But I think we'll start small. And if you want to come back next meeting, report which which if any other policy you have identified, you want to look at. And then, um, you can work with Jo's office and town council to work on at least those three.

01:02:35,159	S8:
Okay.

01:02:36,320	S6:
Yeah, I would say that it might take a little bit longer than to the next meeting to get through all of them. Um, but if we're thinking it would be June 15th and that would give us a month.

01:02:48,840	S8:
Yeah. That's right. That might be a bit.

01:02:52,960	S6:
Of.

01:02:53,440	S8:
Of.

01:02:53,679	S6:
A more reasonable timeline to sort of make that.

01:02:57,239	S8:
First pass. So we'll.

01:02:58,079	S1:
Plan for June 15th regardless of whether.

01:03:00,480	S8:
You know.

01:03:01,079	S1:
Maybe the next meeting or may or may not be okay.

01:03:11,000	S1:
Okay. So that is it for our prepared.

01:03:15,820	S7:
A banner over the header.

01:03:18,579	S8:
To the banner.

01:03:20,059	S6:
See the abatement policy and then the use of town hall and a memorial room for public use. And then just we'll just browse through the older policies and look and see it just quickly sort of.

01:03:37,579	S8:
Do.

01:03:37,860	S6:
A, uh, you know, the 10,000 foot view. Does this.

01:03:41,699	S8:
Look like it needs.

01:03:42,900	S6:
To be, um, updated somewhat?

01:03:45,699	S7:
Water, uh, banners and the use of town properties thing.

01:03:51,340	S8:
Okay, great.

01:03:52,579	S7:
Great.

Cool. 01:03:53,619	S5:
Thank you. A few questions before. I'm sorry. I just wanted to make sure we didn't try to wrap up before I answered some questions. Um, yes. Thank you guys for taking that on. Okay. Um, my first question is about, uh, discussion and response to public inquiry. Like Robin getting up in and saying something. What is there.

01:04:13,699	S7:
For any other like for new business.

01:04:16,360	S3:
Just like go into public comment. It's under the I think you're asking regarding during public comment the the no response back kind of what um.

01:04:25,960	S1:
I'm just.

01:04:26,280	S7:
Sorry. I'm just making sure I'm not at the right place in the agenda. Are we in new business now?

01:04:30,440	S1:
Yeah. I mean, we just wrapped up the poll so we can. Yeah, we can move to new business and address questions.

01:04:36,280	S7:
Yeah, yeah. Thank you.

01:04:37,519	S5:
So we're getting ready to adjourn.

01:04:39,639	S8:
No no no no no.

Yeah. 01:04:40,960	S1:
We've got a new business and we can bring up, you know, points for future agendas or questions. But it sounds so is your question whether we respond to public comment or not or engage in dialogue.

01:04:52,400	S5:
Yes. Or what the general policy is that, that you guys have been following?

01:04:56,480	S1:
Yeah. So we recently changed this, and there was a point in our history where there was a lot of interaction going on. Um, but recently changes to our public comment policy, we simply, you know, a lot them there three minutes to speak and then we don't provide feedback or questions.

01:05:12,469	S8:
Okay.

01:05:13,550	S5:
Um. Is there is. Do they ever get a response to that? To their inquiry or not?

01:05:22,829	S3:
So generally, if the board feels that something that was raised during public comment needs their attention, further, they'll have a place on a future agenda. There have been several times where at the end of new business, Bill or Rosie will say, hey, we heard this during public comment, let's have that on the next day or things can get referred to staff, myself and the department heads to respond back. Yeah. You know.

01:05:42,750	S7:
Goes up in new business or.

Yeah. 01:05:44,869	S1:
Or we could bring it up in your agenda setting with the chair. And, you know, this came up at public comment and we talk about this. That's another. Okay. So there are there are ways that we could, you know, if there's interest from a board member.

01:05:55,829	S7:
To Burke.

01:05:56,230	S1:
To bring it up.

01:05:56,829	S5:
Okay. So if we were interested in pursuing the idea of, of of moving some benches to Hyde Park.

01:06:05,710	S7:
I.

01:06:06,269	S3:
Would suggest first everybody take a look at the park master plan, because it calls out for more benches and more shade trees and walking trails and all sorts of things that we want to do there. The Eagle Scout project was specifically asked and provided permission to construct the picnic tables for Cutler Park. And that was what the gift was intended for. Um, okay. We have the ability to add seating at Weaver Pond or other parts of the park, if that's what the town wants. But, I mean, I think the board should really have a conversation if you're going to ask us to move something that was intended for one place to another place.

01:06:39,090	S8:
All right.

01:06:40,210	S3:
That's up to you.

01:06:40,849	S5:
But no, I mean, I've read the the master plan, and I think it's a great long term thing, but, you know, there's sort of an immediate need. And I was just curious about whether there's an opportunity to address that, whether whether it's by moving those or by coming up with some other structures there because it is good news.

01:06:58,449	S7:
We have a little short policy written in 2001 that gives us discretion to do it.

01:07:03,130	S8:
Excellent. Would you bring that back? Yeah.

01:07:06,130	S5:
Um, okay. So that's good. Thank you for your clarification on that. And the other one is, um, is that we received an email from Leonard Rubin about, uh, several topics. Um, and how do those get addressed as well?

01:07:20,469	S3:
So I did provide an answer, and I and I and the answer today, I explained that the select board has an upcoming goal setting and strategic planning, uh, workshop plan for the end of June. And that that would probably be a good place for the Select board to raise the issues that were raised in his, um, to discuss the issues that were raised in his email. Um, yeah, I will say that it's I will say that the things that were pointed out in the the things that were pointed out in the email are things that town. The town towns have looked at over the years, off and on several times. It's not that the ideas haven't been discussed before. They're a lot harder to do than than people would want to think that they are. We've done a lot of regionalization, particularly with Wenham, but with other towns and trying to find ways to make sure that we're delivering services in efficient a manner as possible. But there's a lot. And in one sense, his recommendation to look at Wenham is right. That will take a lot of time to get there. But I think that was 2008 or $2009. Division of Local Services had a report on what it would take to merge the towns of Hamilton and Wenham, and that report has been widely circulated to other town at least three times since then, including once right after I got here. And in order to do those things, you have to have a willing partner.

01:08:38,659	S8:
Right.

01:08:39,100	S3:
To this point, we have not.

01:08:40,939	S8:
Right.

01:08:41,500	S5:
Okay.

01:08:42,380	S7:
So yeah, I mean, if we're having a discussion about it as a new business agenda item, I think for those individuals, if they're listening or they really think it's a good idea, it's like probably getting a copy of that, that report again to look at, you know, what the benefits, you know, could potentially be. And then what does a coalition like of the public want to look like to kind of be really advocating for that to both boards. I feel like.

01:09:15,000	S3:
It can be both boards, both both fin coms, both town meetings that would require it's going to require broad based support across both communities.

01:09:24,880	S5:
And so that would not be something that would be driven by the select board necessarily, but actually by a.

01:09:29,720	S7:
Coalition.

01:09:30,439	S5:
Of coalition.

01:09:31,680	S7:
At this point, just based on the fact that it does get raised.

01:09:35,399	S5:
Yeah, right. I mean, I think that that I mean, I think that that's an easier I mean, had I asked that question, I would have liked to have seen, you know, had like the report and I, you know, it sounds like it's been distributed before, but I guess it just gives them somewhere to, to start with, understanding what the challenges are.

01:09:52,640	S7:
Yeah.

01:09:55,119	S7:
Yeah, that was a big one. I mean it comes up a lot. I I'll be honest that a lot of people bring it up to me as a board member. I say, why don't we you know what we should do. Hey, Ben. Like, you know.

01:10:05,779	S1:
There's a lot of complications with it, and. Yeah, I mean, it's it's been brought up plenty of times in the past.

01:10:10,579	S7:
And, uh, it's, um, it's I think it's always worthy of the idea. You know, look at us bringing our hands around, like, kind of, like, struggling with our with our budgets and limits and trying to live within our means, etc.. It's a very worthy idea. I think the, the challenges of implementation it my personal not to speak for the board, but my personal opinion would be to build for them to build a coalition between both towns at kind of the individual level and the community level and, and bubble it up, you know, because I think otherwise we're just, you know, pushing a rope.

01:10:50,220	S5:
Sure. Okay. And I can find that report.

01:10:55,539	S3:
I can I'll look I'll find it and circle it out to you again.

01:11:00,460	S5:
Okay. Thank you.

01:11:05,960	S1:
Many other items. New business.

01:11:10,279	S5:
I have one other. Um, uh, what would be the hurdles to reducing the cons come from 7 to 5.

01:11:21,319	S5:
Or or what would be the process to accomplish that? My understanding is, is that it's just that it's a decision that we have.

01:11:31,439	S3:
I have to look. I'll have to look at it. Um, I'm not bylaws. If it's in the bylaws, and it would need to be amended through town meeting. Um, but I don't know that if it's in the bylaws due to requirements at state level, to some boards and committees, for instance, the CPC, there are requirements when you adopt the law and how you how many people are in that committee and how the seats get filled. So I don't know if there's a requirement under this under the state's conservation laws, that requires how large a conservation commission is. Um, So I guess I'll have to check into how that was formed to help you understand how to change it.

01:12:06,590	S5:
Okay, well, I can look in the bylaws for sure and and get an idea whether that's something. I mean, then perpetually five people on that board and two vacancies. And I'm not sure it's something that requires seven people to accomplish.

So. 01:12:25,149	S3:
Um, I'm not sure that other than maybe the first year I got here, that there's ever been seven in my tenure here. Um, okay.

01:12:34,630	S5:
Look.

Thanks. 01:12:35,590	S7:
I think we.

01:12:36,149	S9:
Had six at one point when I was on there.

01:12:39,869	S1:
Many, many years ago.

01:12:41,189	S3:
Like this.

01:12:41,829	S8:
One. They were close.

01:12:44,550	S6:
And each individual seems to have their own, um, strength in terms of contributing to the commission.

01:12:54,750	S1:
Hudson pointed to the con com. I got interviewed by the con com. I had to show up and sit down in a whole interview.

01:13:01,569	S6:
They want to know what your what your deal is, right?

01:13:04,409	S8:
Right.

01:13:04,810	S5:
Well, I was just well, I was on it, you know, with only five people that there was a constant challenge of actually reaching quorum and. Yeah, etc..

01:13:11,890	S1:
There's a lot of overlap.

01:13:12,810	S8:
Yeah.

01:13:13,050	S1:
It's a turnover there.

01:13:14,369	S5:
Real struggle. Well, especially with the deadlines since you have a turnaround, if you can't reach a quorum, you have to postpone people another couple of weeks in there and they're wanting to accomplish their projects.

So. 01:13:26,289	S8:
Okay.

01:13:26,689	S5:
Thank you. I think I'm done.

01:13:28,210	S7:
Yeah. I was hoping for an update from you around our, um, new kind of this new sort of part time position, um, around communications as related to sort of like.

01:13:44,689	S3:
Yeah. So we've, um, I've got a I'm trying to I'm struggling right now with should we go to a, a permanent part time position. We have most of the job description drafted. We also have the beginnings of a solicitation for quotes, for the potential of hiring a consultant, and this pros and cons to both. Um, I think I'm leaning towards the the position because it gives the town, um, more control over the workflow, not not just the product, but if I hire a consultant, I have control over the product because we contract for that, but we don't necessarily have as much input into the, um, to how we get to that work product. So I think I'm leaning towards the employee. Um, and so we should be advertising that in the next week or two, and with the goal of hiring, uh, in time to start July 1st.

01:14:40,229	S7:
And have we. So there's a hired consultant. Is that the same as, like, kind of having, uh, a contractor who's who's doing the work and is in both cases, this individual reports directly to you or.

01:14:56,289	S1:
Yes.

01:14:57,289	S7:
Yes.

Yeah. 01:14:58,729	S3:
Okay. But. But, you know, most people don't understand that I don't. I'm not like a one person. You know, I usually have my team heavily involved with everything that we do and get, get input from the other department heads. I think that there'd be a real need to have this person become part of the, um, the leadership team, even though they're only part time. The interaction with the other department heads that need the service, that need to help us, um, embed communications into our day to day operations. And so, uh.

01:15:32,010	S7:
How many if there are, like, kind of like in the contracting world, you're sort of like, you know, you're you're paying a like for, for almost like, sort of like tasks delivered, almost kind of TNM. Yeah. Really? Right. Yeah. Uh, hey, I've got this thing that this little thing I want you to do over the next, like 2 to 3 weeks, you kind of package it up and they execute it. Right. Um, which is, You know good if things if work kind of ebbs and flows, right? Um, especially if you have an established ecosystem of these tools. With part time though, I'm kind of wondering, like, you know, does that then just sort of like baseline to a number of hours a week that we're trying to fill them up with work. And I know we've got the big website project that's underway. There's going to be a lot of interface points with with that, right. You know, in terms of, uh, how we get information out to people. But I guess, can you maybe give us a little nuance there between what it means for to have a part time person versus a contract person?

01:16:33,000	S3:
So it helps for us because if I have a part time person, I'll, you know, we'll say that their hours, their hours will be set. We'll know what what days of the week and what how many hours in those days they'll be here. And that gives the department heads an opportunity to look at their calendar and say, okay, on this day, I can plug in an hour so that I can make sure to connect with so-and-so so that I can understand what it is we're trying to do, and they can get educated and they can bring it to their full teams if it's a consultant. Any consultant has the ability to develop their own workflow. All I can do is contract for the, uh, the product that we're going to get at, get at the end and, you know, and that it would include like, oh, you know, you want to I want you to have X number of meetings. But they said when the meetings are. So I think going back and forth and I've talked to a few folks both in different towns and then some folks here in Hamilton who might be interested in the position, um, got some really good feedback and I've been wrestling with it, but I think I'm leaning towards the part time position.

01:17:32,340	S8:
Yeah.

01:17:33,140	S3:
And that really wasn't a foregone conclusion because I my thought was that we have it in the FY 27 budget because the voters approved it. But in 2 or 3 years, you have another budget crisis and something's going to go on the chopping block. I hate adding position that might eventually get taken away. Um, but then again, if we can get take advantage of a person on staff for 2 or 3 years that can teach our staff. Teach the rest of our staff how to work and incorporate communications in the way to think about communications in their daily lives. It'll make it easier for everybody, so you may not need that resource forever.

So. 01:18:12,359	S7:
I mean, I think there really are. Like I'll say that I think there's a the the pros on each side of this can be almost sometimes like, uh, unique and beneficial in their own way.

01:18:25,760	S3:
Right I agree.

01:18:26,800	S7:
The benefits of, you know, having a contract person where you're paying them for the outcome is if they don't deliver on the outcome, you know, the water hasn't gone out over the dam, right? That's true. Sort of like, no, I'm not paying for that because he didn't deliver. Right. And it's like, this is the outcome I'm paying for. And it's kind of especially if you're doing it sort of on a if you're breaking up that budget and giving them, all right, I'm going to give you, you know, three, 4 or $5000 or whatever it is to complete this task. It's on them to deliver, you know.

01:18:57,260	S3:
But with a contractor, I'm also I also lose the ability to pick somebody we like based because it's a price driven formula. So I put out a request for services, you know, a solicitation for quotes for these services. I want these services provided with this product that the outcome I get the quotes back. I have to award it to the lowest bidder that's qualified for the work, as opposed to saying, I want to give it to I like this company, I'd rather work with them. So you put yourself in a in a pickle? I, I briefly considered doing both. I briefly considered doing both to see what I got and then go with the one that benefited us the most. But I mean.

01:19:34,140	S7:
There's I, you know, and I don't know all the legality of it or whether this is an option or not, but it's like saying, like having a, you know, you know, what the upset is going to be based on what's in the, in the budget. Right. I don't know, a big secret. Yeah. So, um, but at the same time being able to then say like, almost kind of like developing a pool of, of potential contractors, right? That's just like, hey, I need this thing done by the end of next week. And you, you have a, you have a group of people who who are available as opposed to it needing to be always like the like kind of lowest bidder approach, like for small, discreet tasks that might be like a thousand bucks.

01:20:14,920	S3:
So I think that's a possibility for future. But I don't think that our ability to communicate effectively is there yet.

01:20:20,520	S8:
Okay.

01:20:21,199	S3:
I think we need we need to embed some certain, you know, protocols and policies and just a way of thinking about how we report out about the work we do before we can get there. And we need to make it uniform to, to make it easier for people to consume the information. You know, we have 3 or 4 different people putting out information on 3 or 4 different Facebook sites or Instagram sites and.

01:20:46,470	S3:
Everybody. If everybody puts out a message in a different way, then there's there's a certain amount of noise that the reader has to sift through to get to understand what your point is. So I want to have somebody that helps us streamline what our posts look like, help us streamline and kind of brand the way we put messages on our website and put use the sign board so that when people look at a post, they know right away before they even read that, oh, this is a post about weekly trash collection. So now I just now I can just focus on the on the information. I don't have to try to figure out what it is they try to tell me, and we don't do that right now, so we need to do that better, right?

01:21:24,550	S7:
Yeah, I think and I know it's your decision. That's what we gave you the funding for. I just want to voice my concern of like, the importance then of really getting, um, just a highly qualified person, you know, who has, you know, this very kind of a flexible mindset who can really work with a broad variety of skill sets that they'll be bumping into inside of the administrative kind of ecosystem, and that they'll need to do a lot of that, that lift. Yeah. You know, because it's it's, uh, this kind of work is not intuitive to most people. Right. Like, so I mean.

01:22:09,090	S3:
This will work. Yes. What I understand.

01:22:11,210	S7:
Yeah. Even in, like, the corporate world. Let's be honest. Right. Everywhere we go, you know, people are like, I'm a great communicator. And it's like. But when it comes to this type, it it's a very it is very much a learned skill. And I don't think that it's always intuitive. And so I just want to emphasize then the importance of, of getting that extremely collaborative, very flexible, very patient and extremely qualified from a technical basis. Yeah, I appreciate that.

01:22:36,090	S1:
Yeah, I.

01:22:36,529	S7:
Know that's a lot to ask for, but making it a full time position or not holding a part time like committed to an individual, you know, makes it just that much more important.

01:22:46,550	S3:
Yes, I agree. So there's always a chance. Just because I advertise position, if I don't get a pool candidate that I like, you can always switch switch tactics. Um, so that's that remains a possibility too.

01:23:02,189	S1:
Okay.

01:23:03,869	S7:
Thanks for the update. No problem. Discussion.

Yep. 01:23:07,590	S3:
Can I provide a quick update? Just make sure everybody knows that the Legion is having their annual Memorial Day breakfast on the Sunday, May 24th at 8 a.m. and as always, the select board and your guests are invited to attend. Um, hey. Leland McDonough, on behalf of the Legion, does ask that we let him know how many people might be coming. So if you could all let me know if you plan to attend on Sunday, I can let Leland know how many you would expect, because they they prepare food and they don't want to waste food.

01:23:37,989	S7:
So you know when he needs to know by.

01:23:41,819	S3:
Um, well, it's already less than a week away, so if you could let me know by Wednesday or Thursday morning.

01:23:48,180	S1:
Yeah, that. Is that just breakfast or is that walking in the.

01:23:50,819	S8:
Parade.

01:23:51,180	S3:
Though? You don't have to tell them that you walk in the parade. You can just show up and walk in the parade. The breakfast is at 8 a.m.. The walking, the parades at ten, I believe.

01:23:57,819	S7:
Yeah, I went to the breakfast last year. It was great.

01:24:00,819	S1:
I didn't get there last year, but it is nice. It's a nice.

01:24:04,539	S7:
I might be in main up until Sunday evening, so I might miss the breakfast this year. Uh, but.

01:24:12,979	S7:
Sunday evening.

01:24:13,659	S5:
So I go.

01:24:16,500	S8:
Yeah.

01:24:17,300	S7:
It's good.

01:24:20,380	S8:
For us.

01:24:21,180	S10:
For you. All right.

01:24:22,260	S1:
I'll I'll know. I'll I'll know by tomorrow.

01:24:25,100	S6:
Joe, you can count me in.

01:24:27,899	S10:
Okay. Solo.

Rosie. 01:24:30,859	S8:
Okay.

01:24:31,579	S6:
Um, not sure yet.

01:24:32,779	S8:
Okay.

01:24:34,220	S10:
Okay.

01:24:35,140	S1:
I have a motion.

01:24:37,180	S6:
Uh, motion to adjourn.

01:24:38,819	S8:
Second.

01:24:39,899	S1:
All in favor?

01:24:40,760	S8:
All right.

01:24:41,279	S1:
All right.

01:24:41,600	S8:
All right.