00:00:12,769 S1: He. 00:00:18,429 S2: Had surgery last Tuesday. And then please feel. 00:00:26,370 S1: Free to tell us at. 00:00:36,630 S3: 7 p.m.. At 7 p.m., we're going to start the, uh. I'm going to call the Monday, December 15th select Board meeting to order. Um, and we have, uh, in the room, we have Ben, Tom and myself. Uh, Rosemary will not be here tonight, and Bill Wilson will be joining us shortly. We have a short agenda tonight and we have an executive session after that. Um, and we've got some new business to discuss for some things you want to get taken care of for the end of the year for our next meeting, or maybe set up a special meeting just to go over a few things we'll get to at the end. Um. 00:01:15,469 S3: The board and committee openings for your New Year's resolutions when you want to volunteer for town government. Next year we have one opening for the Affordable Housing Trust, two openings for Conservation Commission, two openings for the Community Preservation Committee. Uh, one opening for a member of the historic district commission, the other for an at large member. We have one opening on Council for aging. 00:01:38,170 S4: That's actually two openings. Sorry about. 00:01:39,769 S3: That. For the Council on Aging, we have two openings, two openings. Breaking news for Council on Aging for the Income Finance Advisory Committee. We have two openings, which is appointed through the moderator. Uh, we have one opening at the Hamilton Environmental Impact Committee. And the historic District Commission has two openings for three year terms. Two openings for two year terms, and one of those must be a resident of historic district and one must be a resident realtor. And lastly, we have two at large openings for the Human Rights Commission. So plenty of opportunity to get involved. And obviously we'd like the historic commission to get more full group, more full board. Um, time in our meeting, we take for public comment, take a maximum of 30 minutes, no more than three minutes per individual. If you want to speak, please either raise your hand online or step up to the podium and introduce yourself and your address. 00:02:34,469 S4: Members of the public online Tim Olson for the report. All right. 00:02:40,469 S3: Moving right along. 00:02:44,129 S3: Um. 00:02:47,129 S3: What are you talking about? 00:02:50,469 S4: Two. You have two consent. Two items on the consent agenda. 00:02:53,870 S3: But you just talk about, uh, updates, town updates. Somehow that dropped off our meeting minutes. But board and committee updates. I just want to say I just want to make a quick comment on town meeting. Obviously very successful. And it's something that when I talked about there, we should be very proud of what we did in terms of building consensus and making sure everybody was heard because it really shone through. I've never seen I'm going to theoretically call it a unanimous vote. I think it's one person in the back may have said nay, but I couldn't quite hear what that was. But I was going to call it. I mean, it's pretty remarkable to have a unanimous vote. So I'm really proud of what we did. And I think everybody, because it was really a group effort, a town effort. So um, and I announced what we got on. Yep. And we got, we got our first $100,000 check dropped off at, uh, at Town hall on Friday. So, um, that's great. We are already reaping benefits of it, and hopefully the seminary will as well. And we'll be good partners together for a long time to come. So, uh, any other updates on that? 00:03:47,900 S4: Not on that front. Okay. 00:03:49,500 S3: Anybody else have any updates? Boards and committees. 00:03:51,830 S5: Town updates on for me? 00:03:53,969 S3: Uh, we have two items on the consent agenda. Do I have a motion to approve the meeting minutes of November 3rd and November 17th? 00:04:01,699 S5: I'll make a motion to approve the consent agenda. 00:04:04,669 S3: Second. Any further discussion? All those in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. All right. Moving right along. Corinne, Cal is here to give us a department head report. Head report of town clerk department. 00:04:20,399 S6: Good evening. Corinne Cahill, town clerk. Um, good to be here. Always good to see everyone. Uh, it's that time of year. Start planning for calendar year 2026. So tonight I'm here for three reasons. First is to provide the overall information about the April 16th town election calendar. Second, to identify the positions that will be on the ballot. And third, to give you and the listening audience some information about other relevant, relative relevant activities and initiatives happening in the clerk's office. So first, the calendar for the 2026 town election. Nomination papers will be available Monday, January 12th and are due back. And this will all be on my web page. Um, so, um, folks, folks can access it. They're due back on Thursday, February 26th. Signature requirements are the same. They were in the past 37 signatures for town position, 40 for the school committee. So by law, those papers have to come back to clerk's 49 days before the election. So it's not an arbitrary date. The last date of objector withdrawal is Monday, March 16th. Sometimes people change their mind and ballots will be ordered on the next day, March 17th. So on that note, any ballot question language to be included on the ballot is due to the clerk's office by March 12th. Again, another state law 35 days before the election. And that language, when it comes to me, must be voted by the Select board. And so looking at the schedule, it looks like your March 2nd meeting would be the time to vote on that. And as far as I know, we're anticipating, right, a ballot question from the schools for the debt exclusion on the roof. At least at least one ballot question. Okay. So I just wanted to make sure I got the date out there so people move fast on it. And I did notify the school committee chair of those states, so they hopefully have it on their radar. Next topic is the positions that will be on the ballot. So we have 11 positions that will be on the ballot. The one position on the select board is Bill Wilson, town moderator. It's a one year term. So that's on the ballot. Town clerk is back on the ballot this year for three year term. One position on the board of assessors, two on the Planning board, Marni Crouch and Pat Naughton, one on the Hamilton Housing Authority. Cheri Leonard, one Hamilton position on the library Board of Library Trustees, MJ Brown, and then with the School Committee. We have two positions for three year terms. So that's Dino Lara and Megan Benson, who was recently appointed. And then to fill out the term of David Polito, it becomes a position for a two year term because his was not up for re-election. So those are the positions and I'll be sending out over the next couple of weeks. I'll be sending out my emails to each person up for re-election to give them that information. So they have it for me and, um, to remind them about all the campaign finance law filing requirements that go with the responsibility. Any questions on that? Pretty straightforward. Right? Um, other related initiatives and things going on from the clerk's office. Um, I want to start by giving a shout out to all the election workers, especially to Ann, Hugh and my assistant town clerk. We closed out calendar year 2025, having checked in just over 8000 voters at six events. and that's just slightly below what we checked in in 2024, which was a presidential election year. So in 2024, we checked in around 9300. But boy, I don't need to tell you guys. We were very, very busy in 2025. We went into it planning for three events. It was supposed to be an off season for clerks offices, so three events would have been town election, town meeting, and then one special town meeting. And I don't need to tell you, we gained a couple of town meetings and a school election. So again, I can't thank the election workers and and my staff enough. It's just unbelievable. I feel very fortunate. Um, we're already involved in activity related to the planning for the 20th November 2026 state election, the midterms. So you've probably seen, heard, read about, or even signed some petition papers there, close to 40 initiative petitions, some of them duplicative out there circulating for signatures to get a ballot question on the November ballot. We receive back from because the papers are set up by community, 547 pages of signatures, and an certified over 1200 signatures across all those pages. So we went through a lot of work on those. And again, I want to thank her for all the work on that. Um, there so far saying that it's probably going to be a record setting number of ballot questions on the ballot in November. So that becomes a little concerning just administratively, because then people hang out at the at the polling booth a little longer than otherwise. So we're already looking forward to that. Um, campaign finance year end report for all of us, including me, any elected official, whether you were on the ballot last year or not, there will be a year end report due January 20th, 2026. But again, I'll be forwarding that out to folks. Just want to give you that. Heads up the 2026 census forms will be mailed out the first week of January to approximately 2900 residences. Responses are due within ten days. Doesn't seem to matter. We're still getting them back in November and December, but they are due as soon as possible. So anybody listening? I'd appreciate if they got them back in. Um, dog license, um, renewal form and the trash schedule as usual will be included with that mailing. It's a good opportunity to get those things out there. So with the census forms in 2025, approximately 67% came back, which was less than the 71% that came back in 2024. So I keep my fingers crossed that people will, um, get those numbers out. So we do our best to track people down every chance we get. Um, new calendar year also means another round of conflict of interest ethics training for all municipal employees, which, as we know, includes elected officials and board and committee appointed members in addition to employees. So it's a total of about 245 people who are subject to this and are always educating people, because I'm sure some of you have heard from me at least once. You know, every year we have to do the acknowledgement of the summary, and every two years we have to do the full training. So it's a it's a little bit of tracking, attract people down and make sure they complete both both components of it. Automatic emails will be generated by the system from the state. That was one of the benefits of them moving to an electronic system. But I do have to continue to track and send emails to folks, and we'll continue to do that. So when I still have some 2025 that are yet in compliance, they have a few days. So I think they'll get one more nice email from me and probably one not so nice email. So um, I'll be spending time on that. So again, I'll be posting that election schedule on the web page. Um, folks can see that. And then I'll be back to see you in the new year for miscellaneous other things. The delegation of the assignment of police detail from the select board to the police chief. And then, uh, every year there's a registrar to be reappointed. So I'll be coming back to you folks for that to thank you in advance. 00:12:04,769 S3: And I mean, thank you for everything you do and keeping our clerk's office running as smooth as ever. Try and always having a friendly and welcoming face. And people like to come in, and your open door policy is great. So I appreciate that you've been a huge asset to our, our town and our government. Um, I only had really one question. I just kind of curiosity more Joe, in terms of budget, like how does how do we handle budget for those things? When you run her budget, does she run her budget when. 00:12:28,570 S4: She runs her budget? Um, we we appropriated. 00:12:31,029 S3: We we we. 00:12:32,669 S4: We did seek some additional funding from the um, income reserve fund. So that was, that was A11 place that we were able to get it from. So we did that both. I think we did at the end of FY 25 and for the special time meeting in June that we weren't planning on, and then we I think we went again in July. 00:12:52,330 S6: I think we're all right in July. And then the school paid for the election. So I mean, we we had to make some of the expenses. 00:12:59,830 S3: And they reimbursed. 00:13:00,600 S6: And then they reimbursed us. And I know, in fact, that check has come back. So yeah. Yeah. Good question. But yeah, it goes it's really hard. It's just. 00:13:07,200 S3: Different. It's hard to forecast when you. 00:13:08,629 S6: Don't you know, but you know but it's. 00:13:10,330 S3: You can forecast a normal year but not. 00:13:11,970 S6: Yeah. And then I test the numbers. So you know in an election it's usually around 8 or $9000. And so as I'm doing my budget for the next year, all of a sudden it goes up by about 20 grand and you're like, oh, what's going on. Well, because there's two more elections. 00:13:25,730 S4: So Queen's already asked me not to have any special town meetings in FY 26, FY 27. So. 00:13:31,529 S6: You know we'll see. But yeah, but the other good thing too is some of my poll workers are volunteers, but I have to budget for assuming, you know, maybe not one volunteer is going to make it, and I have to pay who works. So there's always a little bit of opportunity there. So when a special surprise comes up, I don't panic right away. I give myself a little time to look at the numbers more closely. But, um, but it works out. 00:13:57,370 S3: So your staff this year just talk about, you know, you had some they had an intern that worked pretty hard in your in your group. And so is that true. Correct. Or you had some. 00:14:07,200 S6: Last summer we had a college intern. Yes. 00:14:09,769 S3: Who is that something you're gonna have again? 00:14:11,529 S6: Uh, I don't know. Okay. I mean, although she's coming back from UMass next week and she wants to come back and help with whatever we need help with. 00:14:19,169 S3: So I think it's good to do that stuff. I think it's important to have a history. 00:14:23,100 S6: Yeah, I. 00:14:23,470 S3: Know. 00:14:23,769 S4: It's. 00:14:24,730 S6: It's very nice giving people that opportunity and especially when they're skilled, it's just wonderful. You know, she was uh, she was a real joy to have. So she's thinking she wants to be a lawyer. So, um, I was thrilled it was her, counselor at college that said, if you want to learn about local law and what goes on local, call your town clerk. So got an unsolicited letter from her and she, um, she worked out really, really well. So, yeah, she might be back for a few days over her her school break. So. Yeah. 00:14:55,000 S3: All right. 00:14:55,470 S5: Great. Thanks, Chris. 00:14:56,399 S7: Echo. You know the gratitude. Thank you so much for everything that you all are doing for yourselves and especially you and and and the election workers as you've called out. So thank you so much for all that help. Support. 00:15:07,730 S6: Yeah, I'll pass it along. 00:15:10,129 S4: Thanks. Thanks, Greg. 00:15:11,070 S5: Brendan. 00:15:14,769 S4: Nelson is on the line. 00:15:16,399 S3: Okay, next item on the agenda is. 00:15:21,000 S3: Water abatement. Appeal of denial for 441 Highland Street. Um, so I'll give a quick, quick synopsis. I've done some research. Talk to some people. I'll give a quick synopsis where we are. I'll let Tim Olson speak if he needs to, and then the board will speak, and then we'll let, uh, and let Mr. Steven Otto speak, and then we can make a decision. And if we have to vote, we can vote. So, um, so I'll summarize it from a high level, and then we can get to specifics. But. So Steven and his family moved into 414 Highland, roughly. I think they believe in the summer of 2024, uh, and occupied the house for since then, sort of traveling in the summertime and doing some work on the house and wasn't fully occupied at the time. They moved in and they paid their water bill quarterly. Um, and then in the summer of 2025, they received a bill that was ten times what their normal bill was. Um, so he obviously contacted DPW and was told that they had been estimating estimated bills for the for the year. And being a new resident, Hamilton, and not necessarily looking at the bill in a way that maybe residents would not realize the difference between estimate and actual. They were surprised that there had been estimated for over a year and not had actual. Um, so Tim's response was, hey, maybe you have a leak. Uh, did you have a leak? Do you have any repairs done over the course of the year? Uh, Stephen responded by saying, well, we had a couple of heads that broke in our irrigation system, so it immediately sort of interpreted it to must be an irrigation leak. Um, he had once the bill was, was given him in summer of 25, he had no other repairs done to the house, so no repairs were done after that point. And then his next bill was back to normal and a normal situation. Somebody gets a bill, then they do the repair, and then they prove that the leak fixed the roof. In this case, there was not a repair that that that fixed the leak. It was just sort of a guess of well, replaced some heads on the irrigation system. There was no digging up of any pipe. There was no replacement of pipe. Um, there was plumbing work done in the house because they did improvements in the house. So, uh, the position is that I don't necessarily believe that it was an irrigation leak. It was some sort of either a malfunctioning, malfunctioning meter or a bad reading or some other situation that happened. 00:17:41,900 S4: The meters weren't malfunctioning. I just want to correct that. I don't want people out there thinking that the meters are malfunctioning. The meters are not malfunctioning. We have we've had issues with MCAS, the radio transmitter on the meters sending to the software. Those have been replaced when we get to them, when we're able to get to them. I don't know all the details here, so I'm not making any, but I guess I guess I'm saying the meter was working right. 00:18:03,329 S3: The comment he made is that there was a reading done a year ago, and we're assuming that reading is correct, but it's hard. It's hard for an order to know that it's correct when it hasn't had a correct reading for a year. So he's saying they're doing the delta between what they read when the old owner owned the house and what they're reading in August of 2025. So it's very hard for an owner to go back and say, I was like, okay, now you're telling me that you didn't have a correct reading for a year, but you can tell me in August of 2024 you have that accurate reading before the house was sold. It's hard to sort of prove that out over the course of a year when there has been no accurate results. That's the position of a homeowner saying, hey, it's really hard for me to believe that if you haven't had an accurate reading in a year, that's all I'm saying. Whether it's malfunction or not malfunction, it's hard to sort of have that confidence that really how do I know that was accurate in a year ago? That was the comment, right. Tim can comment whether that's true or not true, but that's the position of the homeowner of. It's been a year, and I don't have confidence that we're not saying now. Now he had I think Tim had it tested now. And there's a testing that says it's accurate. But that was the position. So he's asking for an abatement of that because it was originally denied because it was quote unquote tagged as an irrigation leak. Um, I don't necessarily know that it was a typical process for defining riparian irrigation leak, but I want to hear Tim talk to it. I want to hear us ask some questions and and see if he can talk to. But that's kind of why I thought it was worthwhile having an abatement, because it wasn't the typical sort of bill comes. It's much higher than the previous bill. You go get a higher plumber, you find a leak, you find irrigation, you fix it, you show your seed, and then it's fixed it. But this is like sort of. Once the bill was given, there was no repair done. So it's hard to know exactly what caused the leak and what caused this sort of 100,000 gallons. So I think it was 160,000 gallons over the course of a year that is unaccounted for. 00:19:46,470 S7: Is the Tim's going to speak? Can I put a couple of questions? 00:19:50,829 S3: Yeah, yeah. Tim, why don't you speak and then we can ask some questions. 00:19:53,900 S8: Um, can everybody hear me? Yes. Yeah. Okay. Um, Tim Olson, DPW director. So, uh, the resident, um, applied for an abatement back in August of 2025. Um, the letter that I got, the reference to the letter was request for water bill abatement, high consumption due to irrigation system failure. So, um, the resident sent an email in, uh, or or an abatement application in with clearly defining that there was a irrigation leak back in August of 2024. Uh, Corylus landscaping came in, um, to, um, start up the irrigation when they first moved there. Uh, and there was noticeable and substantial, uh, leaks throughout the system. So all I'm, I'm just based off what I'm getting, uh, what I'm hearing from the resident that it seemed like there was a leak back in, uh, middle August 2024. Um, from what they're telling me, uh, the reason for the estimated reads, I can't, I don't I don't really know what to tell you on that. We had the former resident before, uh, Mr. Otto moved there. Um, had had actual readings for 12 years. Um, up until the sell of the house. Um, we then read the meter. We got an actual read during the sale of the house. Um, I have record of that. So I'm confident that the meter was working prior to Mr. Otto, um, buying the house and purchasing a house and moving into the house. Um, from that point on, from when, um, that last reading and I think it was July of 2024, there was a series of three estimated reads. Estimated quarters. Um, I don't know why that happened. Uh, like I said, we've had a good run at that house. Uh, they're they're what I was told by my, uh, staff was that the MSU, the radio transponder unit was the wiring was undone. It took them about 15 minutes to probably replace it. Um, to gain again, another actual reading. So for whatever reason, um, the MSU was um, was was faulty and we were not getting the reading that we needed to. So we were estimating the reading. Um, we do that to accounts if we're not able to establish, uh, actual read. Uh, once we were able to establish the once the MSU was replaced, we were able to get a new, um, reading. Uh, we took a reading of a few weeks, maybe even a month, uh, from the previous read. Uh, we were confirming that the meter and the transmitter was working correctly. The reading was, uh, of of normal usage. So we were confident that we had made the repair a successful repairs. Um, once we got that bill in August or the August bill of 2025, there was considerable usage. So that's when I believe the resident applied for the abatement. Looking back at that. What I think happened was over that period of time, um, there was a leak in the irrigation system, and we were not getting an actual read to know the amount of water that actually went through the meter. Um, until we were able to reestablish the connection with the MSU. So just looking back at what I have in front of me, in the capacity, in my position, it did seem like we've corrected the account. Um, we have done that to a series of counts, uh, in town. Um, but it seemed like there was there's kind of two, two different, uh, two different things going on here. We were correcting accounts, but we were actually by correcting the account, there was obviously a higher usage that was determined, um, as the resident said, by a previous irrigation leak. So, um, that that's kind of what I had to go off of. Uh, I'm not at the capacity in my position to approve that. That's why I did ask the resident to, uh, you know, to reach out. And if I want, you know, if you wanted to appeal my decision, we could come in front of the select board tonight. So that's, uh, that's where I was at by rule. 00:24:37,400 S4: Tim, in his position as DPW director, is not allowed to approve an abatement. Uh, if it's been determined that it was related to an irrigation leak. So that automatically has. 00:24:46,000 S3: No. 00:24:46,099 S4: Right. No, I don't want. 00:24:47,230 S5: To come to it. Right. 00:24:47,869 S4: That's all. That's all. 00:24:48,829 S5: That's all. That's why he brought it to us. Yeah, right. 00:24:50,769 S3: I think Tim did all the right stuff. I think that the only the issue, unfortunate issue is that he didn't get an accurate reading for a year so that if the reading had come out, like last August, right, he maybe would fix something sooner or not or identify what it was. And so the fact is that like it's sort of a does he all the whole like, when did the leak have actually happen. Because he doesn't know. 00:25:12,500 S5: I mean, I could see the unfairness where you have a year's worth of, you know, estimated readings. And so I've had you gotten the bill sooner or gotten some sort of notification sooner. You would have tried to rectify the situation. 00:25:23,769 S3: But it also doesn't make sense that no piping was dug up like they placed ahead. Yeah, like we've seen water leaks for pools and stuff where it's like underground and like it it goes for like, right. It goes for like and it goes into the groundwater. But this is like the reason they knew there was a leak because they saw it. They saw the water spraying from the nozzle and they replaced it and closed it. You're sorry. People just go come up to the. Yeah, yeah, come on up there and introduce yourself and your address class. 00:25:48,970 S7: But just before you do. Um, Tim, for my benefit, the meters that you have are logging usage. It's just if they are disconnected. Um, so you know how much water has been used? It's just once you re-establish the connection, then you're getting the total water consumed. And at that point in time, it was a year's worth of water. So you have that actual figure now? Is that right? 00:26:15,700 S8: Uh. That's correct. Yes. I mean, our meters are very consistent and accurate. The issue was with the connection to the radio reading the transponder unit. Correct. 00:26:28,029 S7: Okay, so it's a digital meter of some kind. It has a data logger on it. So it's got a low voltage connection and it's storing that data as the water is being consumed. Okay. 00:26:41,299 S5: Correct. 00:26:42,000 S8: Yes. 00:26:43,170 S7: And timeline wise. Sorry. The resident, Steven, you moved in in August of August. August of 2024. So last reading was in 2024. You reestablished connection with the device in August of 2025. Um, but it's just a it's a total consumption, right? Tim. It's not you're not getting any kind of profile data or time based data. So you don't know when the water was being used, just the total amount over an entire year. 00:27:13,769 S8: Yeah, exactly. I don't have the actual time frame on that. I just have what, um, what the resident had explained to me in his letter of the time frame. 00:27:24,099 S7: All right. I have other, like, procedural questions, but that's for maybe. 00:27:27,200 S3: Before, I think, maybe after we're. 00:27:28,400 S5: Talking. Sorry. 00:27:29,099 S7: I wanted to have that before. 00:27:30,829 S3: After we have after we talk about this, we can talk about other issues. We've seen other things on Facebook. We just want to make sure we were doing the right stuff so we don't have. 00:27:39,069 S5: The. 00:27:39,769 S3: Chatter stuff. Right. So, um, and so, yeah. Do you have any questions for me? 00:27:45,369 S7: We can hear from Steven and. 00:27:47,000 S3: I mean, yeah, you don't have to speak, but you're welcome to speak. Well, I'm happy to share. 00:27:50,069 S5: A couple other pieces of info. 00:27:51,430 S9: So Steven Otto, 401 Highland Street. Um, and Tim's right. You know, the the first thing I identified when I saw the bill was that. Yeah, we had had some heads that we were placed in 2024. Um, but that was as, as Bill said, um, we witnessed some water coming out of heads and replaced them. Um, that's the calls is not a the opinion that would have consumed 100,000 gallons of water. The system wasn't on for very long. It was shut down. It has been remained shut down ever since. And we've replaced that with a with a water well. So the likelihood that we consumed four years worth of water, our consumptions, you know, much, much lower than that just due to those Rainbird heads leaks that you saw on there. There's no way to know. And as as you just said, you know, in the course of the year, had we had actual readings, we might have been able to determine before getting a $2,500 bill instead of the normal $120 bill. What what was going on? So that wasn't the only water work that we had done. I mean, we've had things done in the house from plumbing and various other things. I don't know what consumed what because in that time frame, it could have been anything that happened over the course of a year. So while I did share the irrigation that says the first thing that came up, you know, in hindsight, looking back a year, it's just too hard to know. So now we're assuming it was working great. Um, I, you know, that's that's the hope. But, um, you know, we'll have to keep watching the readings now, which will also be much more attentive to. Um, but yeah, that's fine. 00:29:20,500 S3: So my thought process is kind of doing the math and based on the abatement. And I'll make a, I'll make a suggestion. You guys can comment on it was that he got a $2,500 bill, which probably should have been about 200 bucks. 00:29:32,569 S5: Yeah. 00:29:33,230 S3: Um, the estimated reading for the month prior to the to the large bill and his readings now were a little bit less like they were estimated 100 and 230, and they were more like 180. So there was some money there. So. So between the 200, the normal bill and probably 300 and arrears for the 50 bucks each quarter, that probably bill was less leaves about a $2,000 issue. Right. And we split that as the abatement. We split that issue. He pays a thousand and we paid 1000. That's sort of what I thought was the math that made sense. But I'm you know, I'll make sure if you have any other suggestions for that in terms of the abatement. 00:30:09,430 S7: Um, if you don't mind sharing how many people are roughly in the household? 00:30:14,730 S9: Typically two adults. Two children? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, we're not there in the summer. So really, this is, you know, nine and a half months of actual living in the house that, you know. Yeah. Again, the consumed amount per quarter is around 10,000. So about 3000 a month. And this is a 100,000 excess. So like really three plus years worth, which is part of why the concern was maybe there are other faulty things going on. So hence hearing about the radios made me wonder are there more issues that we don't know about? Obviously we're just going to stick to what, um, you know what? We have what we know now, but I do. Yeah. 00:30:49,829 S7: Sorry. And you may have already covered this, Tim, but you're now back in, like, you're able to get the meter data and you've seen a quarter's worth of of data. 00:31:01,200 S8: And everything looks good on my end. 00:31:03,599 S7: Yeah. So it's kind of. It is a back close to the historical averages of the previous owner. 00:31:09,630 S8: Um. 00:31:10,829 S7: Sorry, detailed, but it's not. 00:31:14,599 S8: Well, it's hard because I wasn't sure. I don't know how many people were in the previous previous owner, but I mean, it's back to I can tell you it's back to normal usage for a family. 00:31:24,470 S5: Yeah. Okay. 00:31:27,970 S5: Sorry. 00:31:28,430 S3: There's a little bit more to I'm saying, like, the adjusted was a little bit more because it was one person versus four people. 00:31:33,569 S5: Yeah. Of course. Right. 00:31:34,869 S3: It's a little bit more. 00:31:35,599 S5: Yeah. 00:31:36,000 S7: And I'm just trying to get a sense of the the orders of magnitude here. Um. 00:31:44,829 S5: Just a question. I think I know the answer, but I want to confirm with you when you say the resident pays a thousand, we pay it that we don't actually pay. No, we're just not. 00:31:53,269 S9: Paying. 00:31:53,730 S5: $81,000 coming out of the town budget to pay for it. We're actually just not taking the additional rate. 00:31:57,869 S3: He's going to pay 1500 of the bill. 00:31:59,529 S5: Right? 00:31:59,769 S3: Yeah. The 500 for the estimated cost adjustment, $1,000 for whatever this unknown leak was as part of his liability. And then the a $1,000 payment. 00:32:10,400 S5: Right. Yeah. Yeah. No, I think I think that's fair. I think that's consistent with what we've done before in the past for some of these issues in the 50%. Right. Um, we've done that in the past. So I think that's that's a fair assessment. Does that. 00:32:24,099 S7: Feel fair. 00:32:24,569 S9: To be fine with me? 00:32:26,599 S3: I do have a motion. 00:32:30,230 S5: Yeah. So, um, I would make a motion. Let me just pull up the agenda. 00:32:40,670 S5: Uh, I will make a motion to adjust the water abatement, uh, by $1,000, whereby the town will pay for 1000 and the resident will pay for the remainder. Uh, in the matter of 441 Highland Street. 00:32:56,099 S3: I have a second. 00:32:56,869 S7: Second. 00:32:58,200 S3: Any further discussion? Those in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. All right. Thank you. 00:33:04,230 S7: Thank you. Thank you for coming in. 00:33:06,730 S3: So, I mean, I think that, you know, we kind of kind of have like a few years ago, we had a lot of Christmas. 00:33:12,769 S4: Happy holidays. 00:33:13,869 S7: Yeah. 00:33:14,470 S3: A few years ago we had a lot of these. And so and so we sort of had the toilet die thing that you put a dye pack in the toilet. And so it's sort of sort of where we put them in our, we put them in the water bills. 00:33:25,930 S4: Yeah. We set them on the people. 00:33:27,000 S3: But I mean, then we had in the sort of then we had some. We've done a good job, I think in town by minimizing leaks. But I think it's just a good public. When I was like, check your water bill, make sure look at the bill, because I think it's and if you don't know, call Tim calls office. Find out if it's estimator accurate because it does say it on the bill. He's got to know where to look and what to look for. 00:33:44,400 S7: Um I think yeah, that's. 00:33:46,529 S3: And then I don't know if there's a list of like meters in town that aren't working that we can't get into the we can't get into them. We should sort of. So there's more outreach of that kind of stuff. 00:33:55,400 S4: I mean, Tim can explain this, but my understanding is that the department does, on a regular basis, reach out to people whose meters haven't been read, that we let them know in the bill when we when we estimate it, and then we reach out to try to get in there. Oh, it's somebody's private house. They have to let us in. Correct. So sometimes it takes longer than other times. Some people are really quick about letting us in. Some. Some people aren't. Some people didn't know they had an issue. So it's just. 00:34:18,369 S3: You. You want to give a quick public service. But what what people need to do and what so they don't we don't have to continue to have this issue of what their bill says and how you notify them and to respond to you. So give a quick synopsis of. 00:34:30,429 S8: Yeah. I mean, for anybody that gets a water bill, there's going to be either an A on it or an E on it. The E is an estimated reading. For some reason our radio read did not work. Or um, so we were we're fully staffed now. Uh, we've had some transitions over the past few years of retirements, um, and unable to fill some positions there. So we are playing a little bit of catch up on some of the, uh, the estimated readings and then we call them estimated reads or no reads. We're trying to reduce that number. Uh, and, uh, improve, uh, to actual reads. Um, so if anybody has any questions about their bill. Always, even if it's an actual read. Uh, Kelly's been great in the office. Uh, she's been. She'll pull up your count. She'll go over your count with you. Um, if there's issues with it, if there's an estimated read, we can, uh, she will send out the crew to, you know, a timely, uh, you know, schedule a timely meeting or, uh, to stop by and see what's going on. Uh, without with the MSU. Or maybe it could even be in the house. And I'm not saying it's a meter issue. It could be also the wiring that's internal to from the MSU on the outside of the house to the actual meter itself. Uh, so there are times that we do have to get into the homes, um, to, to make those repairs. Uh, and some are, you know, some are challenging. Um, you know, but we only have a certain amount of time between readings to do the work. So we try to knock off as many as we can. Uh, and, you know, we knock off some, and then the next reading, we may get a couple others just because of our infrastructure and our aging infrastructure. It's never perfect. It's never going to be 100%. Um, but we are making strides to reduce that number. Uh, every, you know, every quarter to try to reduce those no reads or the estimated reads to actuals. So feel free to call in. And, uh, Kelly, we'll walk you through your bill and she'll also assign, uh, you know, the crew and staff to go out there and, and look at that specific, um, specific areas. 00:36:39,929 S3: So thanks, Tim. And I do want to thank you. I mean, your department. I did read through the emails. You were very communicative. So anytime Steve had a question, you responded very quickly to it. So, um, so it is correct. I mean, you reach out to Tim. Tim, we'll get back to you as office. We'll get back to you in a timely manner with with a lot of detail. So definitely use him as a resource. 00:36:57,269 S7: Yeah. I just want to kind of say I think it's important that, You know, finding an A or an E on a water bill. Sounds like a bit of a treasure hunt to me. You know, like I wouldn't know. I've been here for four years now, and I'd be like, oh, what? You know, I better check my water bill when I get home. You know, so I am thinking, you know, it might be prudent for us, like, if two cores have gone by and it's still e is like that. We like, really make sure that there's kind of like a cover sheet on the water bill, like, you know, that says, hey, you know, we've been trying to contact you also, like we're just getting an estimated right now. Um, it's important that we resolve the issue or something like that. Just I know it's an extra step in the process, but I just have to think of, like, a couple quarters go by. Um, because this is real money, right? It's like, that's kind of stuff that would really hurt a lot of folks. So, um, yeah. 00:37:51,300 S8: And I think you bring up a good point and I've now I've got a, I would say a it's kind of like a new regime. I have three new employees in the water department, uh, you know, looking at ways to improve. And, uh, I think they're ambitious, uh, and also utilizing the software. Uh, differently than the past, um, staff that we had. So I think there may be ways to at least alert a alert us on our software that if we're getting multiple estimates, uh, at least we can flag those accounts and reach out. So I'm sure there's ways to do that. Yeah. For sure. 00:38:30,730 S7: Yeah. All right. Thanks. 00:38:32,300 S3: Thank you. Thanks, Jim. Thanks, Jim. 00:38:34,469 S4: Thanks, Jim. 00:38:35,469 S5: Thank you. 00:38:37,730 S3: All right. Moving on. Next item on the agenda is license renewals for town issued licenses. I think we have two new ones or just one. 00:38:44,869 S4: But, I mean, this is the annual renewals. You get. 00:38:47,730 S3: All this? The annual. 00:38:48,670 S4: So if you don't mind, I'll real quickly I'll read through all the licenses for liquor licenses. Myopia Hunt Club, Weathervane Tavern, American Legion, A.P. Gardner, Post one, 9415 Walnut Tavern. The Post Honeycomb community package store. Crosby's marketplace Hamilton convenience A&M convenience. Hagens of Hamilton. Also, we have common licenses. American Legion Post 194 Beverly Beer five Sons Pizza. Leva donuts. Doing business as Dunkin Donuts Hamilton Family Markets doing businesses. Crosby's Marketplace, Hamilton Convenience, Hamilton House of pizza, Myopia Hunt Club, Weathervane Tavern, the community House, Indigo Restaurant, Cumberland Farms, and honeycomb. For entertainment licenses, you have the Indigo doing business, S15 Walnut and the American Legion Gardner Post. And then you have an amusement license to visit there. And then the last one is the the class two license. You only have one now. Um, that's A and M motors. So. So all those licenses are here for you to sign. 00:40:08,869 S3: Cars are fixing cars. 00:40:10,199 S4: Class two is the ability to sell cars. 00:40:12,769 S5: Okay. 00:40:14,530 S3: Um, and just go back to the liquor license. 00:40:17,699 S5: Yep. 00:40:18,329 S4: Are you. 00:40:18,530 S3: There? Explain to me the, um. The payment received. 00:40:23,170 S4: So, myopia hunt club, weathervane, American legion. They. Because they serve on premises. The other are carryout. So honeycomb shouldn't be there for carryout. It should be there for. 00:40:35,400 S3: Yeah, I'm confused by that. 00:40:36,329 S4: It could be on the honeycomb. It could be because it's just beer and wine. They don't serve any hard liquor, any spirits. Um, and then the Crosby's Hamilton. Convenience and convenience and arrogance are all just carry out. 00:40:47,969 S3: And what about here? Why is that 1500 at the bottom? 00:40:53,599 S4: I don't know. I can call. I can try and find out, but I don't know offhand. It was an automatic renewal, so it was just. 00:41:12,829 S3: All right, so what do we how many motions do we need to make? 00:41:16,630 S4: Um, well, we just read all of them. So if you wanted to make a motion to sign all of the license. So the licenses are here, everything is done for them as of today. The only hiccup in any of this is that the common licenses require a visit from the health department, and those are being scheduled for after January 5th. But as of today, they're all up to date on all their inspections, and they're being scheduled now for the first week in January. So you can authorize these. It's not really that big an issue, because if they have a health department issue, they'll get closed down on the health department anyway. So, um, if you want to authorize all of these licenses as just read and then you can sign them and. 00:41:52,369 S3: Save yourself multiple uh, I haven't been in honeycomb in a while, but I know it's discussion every year. Honeycomb is doing whatnot. They're not selling beer. They're only serving alcohol. Right? They're doing. 00:42:02,429 S4: Beer. They're serving beer and wine. They're not doing carryout anymore. 00:42:05,300 S3: Not doing care anymore. 00:42:06,070 S5: Okay. 00:42:07,900 S3: All right, so do I have a motion to approve all licenses as read on the two 2026 license renewal spreadsheet. 00:42:14,869 S5: So moved. 00:42:16,630 S3: Second. Second. Any further discussion? I think just like Quincy and Joe, the caveat that you confirm the. Yep, the the fees for the devices and pending board of Health approval on the Common Board. 00:42:35,269 S3: And there's nobody you're waiting on. Right. This is all. That's everybody. We got it in. 00:42:41,500 S5: Yep. 00:42:46,829 S3: I asked this question last year, but the bakery does not serve. They just food. They just sell it, right? They don't have it. They don't need a victor's license. Right? Okay. 00:42:58,730 S3: All right. All in favor, say aye. 00:43:00,769 S5: Aye. 00:43:01,829 S3: Thank you all for doing business in Hamilton. We appreciate it. Yeah. It's good. It's a lot of businesses, huh? Yeah. 00:43:06,900 S5: Good luck. Yeah. 00:43:11,230 S7: Hamilton House of pizza has a two large cheese pizza sales Monday through Thursday, which I didn't know about. Sorry. Give them a little plug. 00:43:23,630 S4: You're going to have people starting calling you, asking you to give them free advertising as well. 00:43:27,769 S7: I just saw the sign when I was shopping this weekend. And so anyway. Yeah. So am I going on Fridays and Saturdays? Remember, we had to move pizza. 00:43:37,730 S3: One of the pizza shops opened up. They came and they brought pizza. Yeah. Smart to get our vote. They brought the pizza. 00:43:46,000 S4: They didn't need. 00:43:46,900 S3: Something, though. 00:43:48,429 S4: No, it was different. It was different owners. 00:43:50,300 S3: Yeah. All right. Next item on the agenda is, um. 00:43:57,030 S4: To approve the calendar. 00:43:58,099 S3: Select board calendar. So the calendar was in the packet and. 00:44:01,530 S4: One. 00:44:01,699 S3: Correction and we only have one correction. Was that the, uh, that Patriot's Day is 420? Yes. And so we need to, um, move that to 421. It'd be a Tuesday. Enjoy the. I'm sorry I lost the, um, we pulled out of here. What's that? 00:44:19,230 S4: Oh, it was in there. 00:44:19,900 S3: Oh, here it is. Um. And we have. So I'll go through real quick. Monday, January 5th, which is the Monday after New Year's weekend. We have Tuesday, January 20th to the 19th is, uh, MLK day. We have Monday, February 2nd. We have Tuesday, February 17th, because the 16th is, um, present day. 00:44:41,269 S7: I mean, we have town that day. 00:44:42,670 S3: We have Monday, March 2nd, Monday, March 16th, Monday, April 6th. Tuesday, April 21st 21st. Monday, May 4th. Monday, May 18th. Monday, June 1st. Monday, June 15th. Monday, July 6th. And. Monday, July 20th. 00:44:59,730 S3: So it's not necessarily an official vote, but. 00:45:01,630 S7: We really want to do the July 6th. Monday, July 6th. 00:45:05,900 S3: I mean we. 00:45:06,630 S4: The holiday is on the fourth. The fourth Saturday. 00:45:09,030 S3: The work day. 00:45:09,829 S4: You can have. 00:45:10,869 S7: Fridays like Friday off here. 00:45:13,869 S3: I think we'll have at least three people here. So I'm not all right. But it's harder to. Summers are harder. 00:45:19,230 S4: As you. 00:45:19,500 S3: Get. 00:45:19,869 S4: Closer, you can always amend it. But we it just like it's good to have a forecast for 6 or 7 months. So you can plan when things might get get brought up. Yeah. We have had years when the select boards decided to only have one meeting in July. If you get there this year and you feel like it's time to go. 00:45:35,929 S5: In the past can always change out because I may not be there on that Monday. 00:45:39,130 S3: All right. So I have a motion to approve the January 1st, 26 to July 31st, 26 second board meeting County, with the caveat that we've adjusted the April 20th meeting. 00:45:50,829 S4: The 21st is that I think Ben wanted to say something else. 00:45:54,630 S7: Let's let's do it. I just want I'm out on the 17th. So if somebody else February. 00:45:59,670 S3: 17th, we just need three people. So I think we're fine. 00:46:02,230 S5: Okay. Yeah. 00:46:03,300 S3: We didn't have two people here tonight. 00:46:04,699 S4: So who's making the motion? 00:46:05,630 S7: All right. So so so moved it all up. 00:46:08,369 S3: Second, second. All those in favor say aye. 00:46:10,269 S5: Aye aye aye. 00:46:12,030 S3: All right. Next item on the agenda is. So Joe we have. 00:46:17,030 S4: We had just under new business. Yeah. So, so, um, actually Chief Brunette happens to be here if you want to ask him. We had a donation to the fire department. We're not going to vote to accept it tonight, because we haven't had a chance to put it into an agenda, but I wanted you to know about it. We'll get it on the next agenda under. 00:46:36,429 S3: Steve is here. 00:46:37,030 S4: Well, he's here for the. He's here for later, but, um. But he's here if. 00:46:40,869 S3: You want to talk to him, recognize? Or Angela Roberts. 00:46:43,670 S4: Or Dan or whoever. 00:46:52,369 S10: So we went to the house for a medical, and, um, they donated a $20,000 to the fire department and $20,000 to the police department for our assistance. Um. 00:47:04,269 S7: Oh. 00:47:04,570 S3: That's awesome. 00:47:05,699 S4: So it was 20 to 20. Oh, I hadn't heard about the one in police yet. Okay. 00:47:09,869 S5: Yeah. 00:47:10,469 S7: Wow. 00:47:11,170 S10: So I guess they haven't turned their check in yet. 00:47:15,199 S3: That's great. Well, thank you to the. 00:47:16,570 S4: End until they turn it in. 00:47:17,429 S3: So I'm worried about Angela. 00:47:19,500 S10: What's coming now? 00:47:20,300 S4: Yeah. 00:47:20,469 S7: Now we know which family. 00:47:22,030 S4: Uh. 00:47:22,900 S7: Thank you very much. 00:47:24,630 S4: So we'll, um, I'll have this on the agenda under consent, so you can just accept it, and then it'll go into accounts and, uh, you'll accept it to go into special accounts for the police and fire to be spent by that. 00:47:37,829 S3: Um, other updates for 19. Old cart Road, which we had the public hearing on. 00:47:43,699 S7: Um, two minutes ago. 00:47:45,030 S3: Two two metres ago or two weeks ago. Um, the update there is that there literally is a purchase and sale like sign. They just have to wait to go through probate. Um, they have filed a petition to the courts to sort of deny the daily fines. 00:48:01,699 S4: Dismiss the daily fines. 00:48:03,000 S3: Fines. We're still continue to find the data to hope, to motivate them, to push us forward. But there's going to be obviously some discussion about the fines at the time of the sale. So I basically told Joe to just find out what they're what they're willing to offer to make the fines go away, and we'll come back and vote on that. 00:48:18,469 S5: Yeah. 00:48:19,599 S3: Um. 00:48:19,869 S5: That's good. That's moving. 00:48:20,829 S7: Has there been any additional dialogue with the neighbors? Are we aware, uh, of. 00:48:26,269 S4: No. The bill. Mr. Haney is providing weekly updates. And I believe that the building commissioner sharing those with the with the neighbors. We haven't heard anything else from them lately. Okay, so the building's locked up. It's it's tight. And they're they're trying to clean up the yard a little bit so it doesn't look like such an eyesore. And they've done what they said they would do, which is they're arranged for a purchase and sale. So and they've got it into probate in the state of Massachusetts. So it's really just that process. He's hoping it can be done in three months. 00:48:55,869 S7: All right. Um, yeah. If at all possible to just make sure for those that are interested as neighbors, you know, that they're getting some of these updates, especially the most recent one that is now in Massachusetts probate. Yep. Um, and the it's probably sounds like take 60 days, but just so they are getting the most up to date information. That was one of their requests when they came in. 00:49:18,369 S5: Yep. 00:49:18,869 S3: And then the last more exciting update is that we had voted at town meeting last Tuesday to extend the lease to up to 40 years. Um, we did get blue Sky gave us a new offer this week for $700,000, um, for a 30 year lease on that tower, which is a lot more than we had been offered previously. Right. It wants to act on it, though, by the end of. 00:49:40,699 S4: By next Monday, so the offers for $608,000 upon closing $20,000 deposit to us. You know, that might only be 680 if now that I read it that way. 680 so 682 seller upon closing $20,000 deposit upon fully executed Loi with a 30 year term, but their offer to us expires 1222. We didn't get this until last Thursday afternoon, so I wasn't able to get it on the agenda. You'll need to vote if you want me to execute the Loi. So I would ask if you wanted to find the time to do a quick 30 minute zoom meeting between now and next Monday, that we can get it advertised 48 hours in advance. Do the quick 30. It can be in the morning. 8:00 to 830 is fine. It's zoom as long as we as long as we advertise it and have the agenda item up two days in advance. 00:50:26,670 S3: Can you guys do Thursday morning so we can post it tomorrow morning? 00:50:30,699 S5: Yep. What time? Thursday morning. 00:50:35,400 S4: Hey, I'd say anytime after eight because you got to give me to post it till eight. At 8:00 I can't get in and post it before 8:00 tomorrow morning, December 18th. 00:50:45,400 S5: I can do before noon. 00:50:47,500 S7: I can do, um. 00:50:48,630 S5: Or I can do it in the car after four. 00:50:51,000 S3: We do. 9:00? Yeah, 9 to 930. 00:50:54,429 S5: Yeah, we can do that. 00:50:55,630 S4: 9 a.m.. Thursday, December 18th. How's that? 00:50:59,699 S3: Wait wait, wait. Ben's looking. 00:51:02,500 S5: Yeah. 00:51:02,769 S3: I'm bill. We got to get Bill Wilson to because, I mean, he. Can't he vote on that or not? 00:51:07,099 S7: I don't think he can review it, though. 00:51:09,400 S5: Yeah, right. 00:51:09,900 S7: Yeah. 00:51:10,170 S3: So he's gonna abstain, though. 00:51:11,670 S5: Yeah. 00:51:12,369 S7: Yes, I can do 9 a.m.. 00:51:14,230 S4: Okay, so I will get this posted. 00:51:16,269 S3: Pelosi and. 00:51:17,170 S4: Rosie. 00:51:17,500 S3: And Bill. Bill. Okay. Okay. But I think it's worth having that discussion on Thursday. Yeah. And the scene, if we're in favor of it. But it's kind of what we wanted. So. 00:51:26,400 S5: Right. That's awesome. 00:51:27,570 S3: So we can take the money and make money on it, right? We can put the money in control that instead of waiting to get paid every month, we can have the money and a chunk and put it in our account and invest it and make interest on it. 00:51:37,769 S5: So. Yeah. That's great. Let's do that. 00:51:40,570 S3: Can we have, uh, can you have the fin come? Um, also in that meeting. See if he's available. That's all the new business I have. Do you have any new business? 00:51:52,170 S7: I did. 00:51:53,030 S3: Okay. Go ahead. 00:51:53,800 S7: Um, I wanted to kind of start the conversation around, uh, communications and just sort of. With the annual budget season coming up, and I don't know if we can get this into this year's budget, or maybe it's got to be further on down the road. Um, as you all know, I kind of have my open office hours every couple of weeks. Some of the consistent feedback, you know, I received from the community is around, um, the accessibility of information and I think in particular in a digestible format. So it's something that I would like us to consider is how we make the information and the data, the things that are informing our decisions, whether it's around timelines or processes, all the things that go into our our larger maybe. Multi quarter or multi year initiatives that are large and complex that we have some more consistency there, that we leverage more of the tools that are available to us in terms of, you know, our website, social media and Facebook and Instagram or whatever, just to be able to broadcast to people in the town like this is what's going on. Here's where you can go to get this information. Um, and just making things more user friendly, more accessible. I'm open to ideas about how we how we fund this, but it does seem like we we need some support in terms of digital marketing and communications. That's then tied back to the complexity, you know, behind these decisions. You know, if there's a vote coming up in three months and it's the first time that you're hearing about it, which is natural. It's like the first place you want to go to start finding out information. It's your town's website or your town's Facebook page. So we want to try to create those natural channels for people to then kind of dive down into that, that data, that information. But they need to be able to find it as well as be brought into the process, hopefully sooner rather than later, because I think that's when we have the most success is when we're hearing from, you know, those most affected or from a more general swath of the population, you know, in terms of how people are feeling about it. And so it's something that it's technically complicated to execute well. I don't think it's just something that we tack on to someone else's responsibilities. You know, it's if they're not really trained up in this about how to technically execute it from a strategic standpoint, as well as then the communications language that's required, the financial acumen, etc.. There's there's a lot to it. Right. Um, but something that I think is important, and I would like to take a pass at getting something into this year's budget, even if it is just to get. 00:54:47,000 S3: A consultant we can reach out to, to get some ideas of options and budgets and what it would take, because I don't I have no idea what would even be appropriate to budget, but we need to talk to somebody about that, right? 00:54:56,829 S5: So so just to kind of add to that, because I know you're talking about community engagement and, you know, sort of how to like, reach the community with, like, you know, policy and all of that. I was actually at UMass Boston last week, a panel judge, uh, for a technology projects that the students are doing, they actually launched a website. It's actually it's called People's Voice. It's piloting right now, but it's basically a platform for municipalities to communicate with the public. Right. So you basically can post a policy or a question up there, and then people in the community register for an account and they can actually like, you know, respond to a survey, they can like respond to a question. They can be like post. And it's like, so right now they just have like five town. They have Boston, Brookline, Cambridge, um, like six cities right here. But you can like they're piloting it right now where you can actually start engaging with community. You have to get people. 00:55:44,599 S3: To verify the account before, you. 00:55:46,670 S5: Know. Yeah, they have to get they have to get verified. And then like there's an admin account that you would post that's like from the town that says, like, hey, we're thinking about this XYZ policy. And then people can like sort of like read it, you know, survey or whatever. So, um, I don't know, I can learn more about it and get some more info for Joe. But I was just in the middle of it. I was like, that sounds awesome. That sounds like exactly what? You know something. What we need. Good. 00:56:09,170 S4: Happy. New. Happy to get access to more different types of. 00:56:12,000 S5: Yeah, I'll. 00:56:12,829 S4: Get media tools. More more platforms. 00:56:14,869 S5: Yeah. I'll, um, I'll get some more detail. I'll get it. Okay, Joe. Thank you. 00:56:20,269 S5: Anybody else? That's cool. 00:56:21,769 S3: All right. So we're going to go into executive session. I used to I used to have to read something. 00:56:25,570 S4: Yeah. You can run here. 00:56:31,000 S4: Ask for a motion pursuant to general Law chapter 38. Section blah blah blah blah. 00:56:36,369 S3: I do, I have a motion, uh, to go into executive session pursuant to General Law chapter 30 A, paragraph 21 A2 to conduct strategy sessions in preparation for negotiations with non-union personnel, a contract negotiated with non-union personnel, town manager, fire chief and deputy fire chief positions. And we will not return to open session. 00:56:59,130 S4: No, you'll return to open session only to adjourn. 00:57:01,130 S3: I'll return to open session only to adjourn. 00:57:02,599 S5: So moved. 00:57:03,429 S7: Second. 00:57:04,670 S5: Jesse. 00:57:05,329 S3: Hey. 00:57:05,829 S7: Steve. 00:57:06,130 S3: Thank you for any further discussion. All those in favor say aye. Aye aye aye. 00:57:10,429 S4: All right, everybody, thank you. Good night.