00:00:00,467 S1: Oh. Good evening. This is the October 21st, 2025 meeting of the Wyndham Select Board. It is 6:01 p.m. and present at the opening of the meeting are Peter Clay, Gary Cheesman, and Karen Anger and Ben Timon at select board members. Um, we have as the first agenda item, as is usually the case. Uh, public comment. Um, if there's any member of the public who is here and wishes to speak on a matter that is not otherwise listed on the agenda, this is an opportunity to do so for up to two minutes per person. Um, I don't believe there's anybody in the live audience who wishes to do so. Um, is there anybody online who wishes to give public input? 00:00:52,701 S2: Michelle, is anyone online? 00:01:02,367 S1: All right. Thank you. That brings us to Steve, I think. To the town administrator's update. Yep. 00:01:08,767 S3: A couple of brief updates today. Um, first is first. Last week we moved from the second floor down to the first floor, which I believe was successful. Um, hopefully it didn't interrupt any of the deliveries of any services provided out of town hall, but relatively seamlessly. We're all set up. So we're either going to love or hate each other at the end of the six weeks because we got, what, nine, ten people sitting in the select board rooms and desks everywhere. But it's all good. I think we're having fun down there. But anyway, so just a reminder that all the offices that you would normally go to the second floor for are now on the first floor in the select boardroom, and there is signage as you walk through the door to direct you. 00:01:58,467 S3: And secondly, the next month. The month of November is Indigenous Peoples Month, so the one m Human Rights Committee has put together a self-guided tour around the town for some important landmarks as it as it relates to indigenous people. So on social media going up this week, we'll be posting some historical impact information and facts about the various locations in town, along with a map where you can go visit these locations and there will be little barcode scans you can do with your phone. QR codes that will provide you with audio and text information about the location. So look out for that on social media and we'll also be putting something on the light board. 00:02:48,767 S1: So before we continue, just for the record. Select board member Deirdre Prati is present. 00:02:52,968 S4: Thank you. 00:02:55,367 S3: And that is all I have for updates this evening. 00:03:00,067 S1: Um, I do not have any updates this evening. So we turn to Peter, if you have any. 00:03:05,567 S5: Uh, yeah. I think, uh, we had a really great opening of the West Highland Park on Saturday that was really well attended. And, um, just kudos to, uh, Kate Mallory for doing such a great job with that park. 00:03:23,667 S5: Okay. 00:03:24,467 S6: I'll second those comments. It was a beautiful day. And, uh, good attendance, I think. Probably close to 200 folks. You know. 00:03:32,067 S5: I think it was kind of interesting that we also found out that, um, Deirdre, who lives in West Wenham, had no idea there was actually a park there. 00:03:41,067 S7: That is true. 00:03:43,767 S1: Uh, Deirdre. 00:03:45,167 S7: I'll just echo those comments. Uh, that was a fabulous turnout. Glorious day. And really a wonderful thing for the town of Wenham. 00:03:54,267 S4: Karen. 00:03:55,567 S8: I just want to say thank you for everyone who participated in supporting the Booker Fund run. They raised over their goal of $35,000 to help with educational services. So I want to say thank you. We had a good number of folks come out from the CoA that cheered the kids on. So it was quite an eventful morning. Perfect weather, little cold. But they did a really good job. 00:04:19,300 S1: Great. All right. Thanks everybody. Um, that moves us on to not our cable hearing. Correct. We're going to wait on that. 00:04:28,400 S3: We. Yeah, we can wait on that till 610. Probably could. Do we have time for the consent agenda? 00:04:35,367 S1: Doesn't look like there's anything on it, from what I can tell. 00:04:38,567 S7: One appointment. 00:04:39,501 S8: The appointment. 00:04:40,367 S1: Oh. I'm okay. I'm looking at the agenda. That was part of the meeting packet. Um. 00:04:46,367 S4: That's okay. 00:04:48,767 S1: I got it. Thank you. All right, so we have one item on the consent agenda. That's an appointment to the Hamilton Windham Cultural Council. Counsel. Um, Jean Boudreau. Does anybody wish to make a motion? 00:05:00,400 S4: Sure. 00:05:01,567 S7: Move to appoint Jean Boudreau to the Hamilton Windham Cultural Council for a term effective October 21st, 2025, through June 30th, 2028. 00:05:11,167 S8: Second. 00:05:12,901 S1: Uh, let's do a roll call. Peter. 00:05:15,367 S5: Yes. 00:05:15,868 S1: Gary. 00:05:16,400 S6: Yes. 00:05:17,167 S1: Deirdre. 00:05:17,701 S4: Yes. 00:05:18,467 S1: Karen. Yes. And. Ben. Yes. That's unanimous. Thank you. 00:05:24,267 S1: Okay. Well, Steve, I don't see any other items on the agenda that are ready to discuss to you. 00:05:33,601 S3: Nope. That is it. Next item will be in four minutes. The board can call the public hearing for the Comcast licensing agreement. 00:05:45,868 S4: All right. We'll have a. 00:05:48,567 S1: Four minute adjournment. Yes. 00:05:51,467 S4: Recess. 00:05:52,300 S1: Recess. 00:05:52,901 S4: Yes. 00:05:54,100 S6: You killed the audio. 00:05:55,701 S4: Thank you. 00:10:23,467 S2: Thank you. 00:10:24,801 S1: All right. It is 610, and we are going to conduct the public hearing regarding the renewal of cable television license of Comcast Cable Communication Management, LLC with a, I guess, maybe not a vote, but, um. 00:10:39,868 S3: Mayor may or may not accept the terms. 00:10:42,167 S4: All right. 00:10:42,968 S1: And we have someone here to present on that. 00:10:45,968 S3: He is running a few minutes late, but in the meantime, I'll give a quick overview and then we have Bill Melville from H.W. Camm, who will add a little bit more color to the services that these funds provide. So what this is what this agreement is in a nutshell is, uh, cable companies, which is now Xfinity has to pay the town a licensing fee to utilize the polls in the public ways within the community. So we take this money and pay for basically H.W. camps of all the audiovisual capital in the services they provide, along with salaries and everything. That these fees are what covers that and brings the service to the community. And basically it's two revenue sources through in one of which is, um, this is new this year, we move from a flat fee to a per subscriber structure. So we get roughly, um. $1.25 per subscriber in the town of Wenham, in which. Which accounts to be in about $2,000 a year. Um, excuse me, $7,500 per year. And, uh, and when we also get 5% of gross revenue just from the town of revenue, town of Wenham, and then we use those fees to provide services. And, Bill, if you want to hop over here and say, add a little bit more detail, the things you are able to to do for the community. 00:12:21,367 S4: Down here. 00:12:22,167 S5: In front of the cameras that are behind. 00:12:23,367 S6: It. 00:12:23,801 S5: So, uh, as Steve is saying, uh, the funding source comes from Comcast and Verizon. So it's the right of way. Uh, they pay, um, they create a license with the town to utilize the polls and negotiate. What's that worth? And usually it's a certain amount of capital and it's a certain percentage year. So we've been lucky because we have two companies. We have Verizon and Comcast, and they both have to basically, um, have equal playing field. So if Verizon does 5% of the GA, Comcast has to do 5%. So that's what's great about this is that basically we get the the highest legal percentage of the GA. That's awesome. But as you know everyone's cutting the cord. So I know basically a budget we lose about 7% of subscribers each year. Well you have to think long term. So when I was thinking about this, um, license, I've done quite a few of these. It's probably my fifth license. Um, Comcast does a ten year, Verizon ties a five year. And I was thinking about like, HIV has been the sort of designated, uh, Public access provider for both towns for 20 years now, which is crazy. And it's it's, um, it's been a really interesting sort of, um, ride and, and all the things that have changed from having things now on your phone from when I used to, when I started here 20 something years ago, I'd have to plug in a piece of equipment in the corner over there. And that's how we came live. So some of the things that we spend the money on, um, basically technology and what I've always tried to do over the 20 years is think about what it's going to happen down the road, right? So when the town hall is renovated, when something happens, I'm not going to put a piece of equipment in there that's already dated, right. So whenever the town hall, um, in Wenham gets renovated again, or is it time for the equipment upgrade? We're going to go with something that's a higher, higher end broadcast quality. So it doesn't lose its it's it's sort of a value in short term. So what I'm talking about is when we did the town hall of Wenham, we were one of the first cable stations to do HD. We weren't broadcasting HD, we're still not broadcast HD, but we are via YouTube and we are via the app. So it's that kind of thinking, right? So the other thing is, I noticed over the last year or two, there's a big push with the federal government for Ada compliance. And what do I mean by that is captioning. That's that's the big, big push. So every year I go to a conference in Las Vegas and they were talking about captioning captioning captioning. And basically, uh, also besides captioning you have to start thinking about descriptive audio people, right? And, uh, the last couple of years in the town meeting, it was pretty successful with the closed captioning. And that's something that's going to be a big investment in the next couple of years. Right. I, uh, piloted a box, uh, last month that does in-room captioning. So that's going to be coming to the Wynnum Town Hall, like probably next year, where you have a TV in the back of the room, and you'll see this meeting live, but you'll see the live captions there. So it's those kinds of things that we try to think about investing in. Um, and not, again, trying to think 20 years down the road as I'm trying to. I'm getting a little confused right. 00:16:31,767 S4: Now, but. 00:16:32,801 S5: I'm just nervous. 00:16:33,501 S4: Yeah. No. That's great. All right. Excellent. 00:16:39,267 S1: All right. Well, thank you, I appreciate that. 00:16:41,701 S6: I'll do. 00:16:42,067 S5: Some traffic. 00:16:42,601 S6: I appreciate it. 00:16:43,267 S1: No. No problem. 00:16:44,367 S5: I didn't. 00:16:45,000 S3: Know. 00:16:45,167 S9: The hardest part was going to be find the entrance. So thank you for having a flat person out there. 00:16:50,100 S1: To keep people. 00:16:50,601 S5: Guessing. 00:16:51,300 S3: William Solomon. 00:16:52,501 S1: Thank you, Attorney Solomon. 00:16:53,667 S6: Great. 00:16:54,200 S9: Thank you very much. Good to be here. All right. So, um, we provided the license in a summary. You know, I think it's a it's a really excellent license. It's a very challenging time, as you know, uh, for cable TV, uh, uh, the revenues that come to the town and therefore flow to the access corp, the Hamilton, Wenham, uh, community television, uh, only comes from cable, doesn't come from internet or telephone. Uh, and so we continue at a 5% of gross revenues for the P&G public education, government, community television operating support. And the capital support is now negotiated. I'd like to thank you. Town administrative assistant and administrator instrumental in getting an excellent number, which is $1.25 per subscriber per month, which is materially more than the current license is. No question subscribers will go down, but in that dollar 25 is built in some protection. Uh, given the number going forward. So we, you know, we think it's a it's a good capital number. Uh, it took a lot of negotiation, the license itself. You know, I think it's the best in the state. It protects the town with respect to your public way, your financial interests, insurance on the dollars again, on the peg support. Uh, the definition of gross revenue, which is the most important definition of the license. It continues to be broad without any, uh, exclusions that shouldn't be excluded. So it includes advertising revenue for the company, home shopping, the franchise fee itself, Health and the 5% is applied to that. So there's clearly a challenge going forward for any public access program. You have the advantage that you do it together with Hamilton, but still it's a relatively small program. And in the future I you know, I think that'll have to be addressed by each town if the law doesn't change. But for now, this is a really strong license, and I'm very pleased with the financial support and and pleased with the legal terms. I'd be happy to answer any questions. 00:19:13,567 S6: Just, um. 00:19:15,267 S3: So this is the board has been provided with the summary that you people, some of you already talked about. Sure. Run through. 00:19:22,300 S6: It. 00:19:22,868 S5: Yeah. No. 00:19:23,567 S9: No problem. Um, well, as uh, described the the subscriber number for Comcast is 450 491 subscribers at the end of 2024, and that's down from 520 the year before and 562 the year before. Verizon, by the way, has had 397 subscribers at the end of 2024. So 491 for Comcast. The Peg support has mentioned 5% of gross revenues. That goes to the town and the Access Corp. That's the maximum allowed under the Cable Act is 5%. Continues to be 5%. Uh, the Peg support as mentioned was $1.25 per subscriber based on the highest number of subscribers for any quarter. And that number has to be provided quarterly, the subscriber number to the town so we can confirm what the payment is. Correct. The, uh, peg channels, uh, continue to have three, but within 24 months there will be a high definition Peg access channel. The transition, uh, one of the SD channels into an HD channel. And that can result in two HD channels because Hamilton has the right to want and when Am has the right to one. So that's a big plus, and something that axis corporations have been looking forward to for 15, 20 years. All of their equipment is HD. As you probably know. Um. 00:21:02,467 S9: The cable casting continues to be, you know, bringing the signal to the studio. Um, and I think it's just really you have your own, which was built by the Access Corporation that connects the buildings in Wenham and Hamilton to the joint studio in Hamilton. And that's a plus, not only because you can control and maintain it, it's fiber, but it's also a plus because in theory, under a 00:21:38,567 S9: 19 ruling by the FCC that, in theory, Comcast, any cable company could take their operating and maintenance cost for video return from a remote building, the town Hall school to, uh, to the to the studio. And that would go toward the 5% there, thereby reducing that 5% payment. Because you operate your own fiber system through Hamilton Community Access, that there's no risk that that will be deducted from the 5%. And that's a plus, uh, cable service, uh, to public buildings. Uh, it continues to be that the entire town is, uh, has cable available to it per the license. And that's, uh, extremely valuable. There's a lot of communities where there's a density requirement. If there's new building, they have to be a certain number of homes for aerial mile or underground mile. In this license, continuing the the fact that all cable service has to be available to all all residents, all residences and installation, if it's 150ft aerial drop, it's a standard installation of one set price. And if it's 100ft for an underground drop, it's a standard installation. Anything and anything beyond that is charged only for the distance beyond those those those distances. Now, you know, in a place like Wenham, you if there are new homes, there are likely to be further off the road. And frankly, most cable companies that do not, you know, measure and, and charge based on that, as long as it's a reasonable distance, they're looking for the customer. And that's even more so in Wenham because you have the, uh, the advantage of also having the second cable company being Verizon. So if one cable company says they want to charge a certain amount to go further distance from the street to the home, you can ask the other cable company. So as a result of that, those numbers which remain the same, you know, or workable and were not something we were looking, looking to change in the negotiation. Um, finally there's two side letters. Let me say cable service to public buildings. Uh, Comcast provides cable service to schools and public buildings for state law. But again, the FCC determination in 2019 would allow a cable company to take the marginal cost of providing that their marginal cost and put it toward the 5% with great credit to Comcast. Comcast doesn't do that, and Verizon doesn't do that. And you know why after coming to a town 40 years ago, 45 years ago and asking to be in the public way and saying, look, an advantage will be we can provide you cable service for public buildings. Why 45 years later, where they want to start saying, well, you know, this is costing us. So we want to we want to take it from you. That really wouldn't be something that would, you know, be a good corporate citizen. And Tom, Comcast to its credit, is an excellent corporate citizen, uh, in the Commonwealth. Uh, then finally there's two side letters, uh, one, which is good to have. It's a senior discount. Doesn't break the bank. I say, you know, you can get a better one in Caldor, Bradley, as they say, or air, but, um, uh, it's $2 off the standard, uh, standard amount. Now, you know, it's it hasn't gone up. It's not a lot. But to be fair, it's voluntary. The law makes it clear that there's no obligation to provide a senior discount. Uh, the competitor doesn't provide a senior discount. Um, so what we were able to do, however, is we were able to expand the financial, um, uh, qualification standards, uh, to include two standards, one of which is a abatement under the state program for, for, for housing. And another one is, uh, the food, uh, allowance that one can get with certain incomes from the federal government. Uh, and so that will allow more people, uh, to be to qualify for that senior discount. But again, uh, you know, it is what it is. It's not something you can say. It has to be higher. You can ask, we asked and, uh, you know, and it's the same, uh, throughout throughout the Commonwealth. Uh, and then the second letter, I think is very important. It's the peg. 00:26:40,367 S9: Peg letter. Public education, government letter that that applies to the electronic program guide and an additional HD peg access channels. And what that letter says is that, uh, within a six, within a six year period when the town wants, they can ask Comcast to come in and discuss the financial and technical feasibility of that and also of doing it, doing those services in, in Wenham. Why does that matter? Because to the extent Comcast decides that it's going to provide additional high definition channels or the electronic program guide, which is the for the Peg programming, so you can record it and know what's on. If they do that elsewhere, then there's great reason to invite them to your board and say or ask first year administration. Well, let's can we let's do that for, for, y'know, and without that side letter. Typically what a cable company will say is that, well, you know, we really like to do these things during license renewal and that's in 2035. So the sign letter represents that we that they understand that if there are change circumstances during that period of time, that they're you can require them to come in and and speak about that. And that's going to make a difference immediately, because it appears that it may be that, um, Comcast as a in its regular course of business, is going to be providing more than one high definition Pag access channel now again in Hamilton. Wenham. Because each town has an HD channel, you have, you'll have two HD channels and there will only be one channel that's not high definition. So for for you, that would mean only one additional HD channel. But if that happens, it's going forward. It may well happen based on one license that's been renewed recently. Then we would want to invite we want to speak to Comcast and potentially invite them and say to them, let's, let's do the same thing here. Since once they start to do a change and approach that they don't do a one off, they'll offer it to everyone. So with that said, again, I'd be happy to answer any questions. Thank you for reminding me to be more detailed in my presentation. Um, and as I said, I think it's an excellent license. The most important change, I think, is the pay cap is the pay capital change and the other provisions, including the HD channel and the side letter, I think are strong reasons to support this license. 00:29:43,467 S1: Great. Thank you very much to any board members. Have questions for Attorney Solomon or Mr. Melville? 00:29:52,567 S10: I had a quick question. 00:29:53,667 S8: For Steve, actually. So what is the cost that from from a Western perspective that it costs one M to run h w cam on a yearly basis? 00:30:03,868 S5: Well they don't yeah, it's a non-profit. We're a non-profit. So it the town doesn't. Basically the town is the license holder. But they designate H.W. Kamm to be it's like self self Operating Corporation. So it's no town money. 00:30:18,667 S8: So it's self operating. But the 7365 that. 00:30:23,467 S5: Oh yeah that that that capital. That's not much our operating our yearly budget uh depending on year to year is usually about 20 50,000. 00:30:34,100 S2: Okay. 00:30:35,467 S5: It depends if we do a big upgrade, you know? Um, Covid, we spent a lot of money at the studio. That was that was a good chunk of change to do that. 00:30:44,567 S8: I guess my only question is, is has I mean, you're looking for a ten year license as looking back in the last ten years, things have drastically changed. So if the percentage of people remove themselves from the streaming platform and that 125 that is guaranteed per person or per household or per per, I don't know how it's done, but so you're looking at roughly $613 a month, you know. 00:31:15,868 S9: For capital that's. 00:31:17,000 S8: Capital. 00:31:17,467 S9: So there's a 5% that goes to the operating. 00:31:20,367 S8: Right. So I guess my thought process is, you know, we're probably looking at over the next ten years that to be a significant, if not altogether drastically changed number. And how much would that cost us? If we're incapable of doing anything for the next ten years and locking ourselves into an agreement of that sort. 00:31:41,100 S5: Hmm. I know what you're saying. I'm going to let Bill answer that. I know I belong to a group of public access stations that are petitioning the state government to include streaming services as part of the GA, as part of the other revenue, because at some point there are. We're pretty good because basically, you've had one person run HTP camp for 20 years where you have other stations, you have three full time people, and that's where all their money goes. So, um, we're trying to get the state to change the law where they include streaming services to do that. Because I know what you're saying. It's it's sort of where if the money ever does dry up, what's going to happen then. 00:32:26,701 S8: I would just hate this board to lock us in for ten years and then turn around in 4 or 5 and say, you know, steam or streaming has drastically changed, and now it's going to cost the town specific amount of money per user. 00:32:37,767 S9: I can answer and thank you. It's a great question because it's the situation that's faced. Excuse me. Um, the reason the ten year, I believe a ten year license is in the town's interest is that the world's not going to get any better. The competitive situation is not going to get any better for cable. Uh, the law is, uh, not not going to get better. It's a 1984 law. That law would not pass today. Uh, so there's always a risk that the law could change, uh, and, uh, and that would provide a situation where it wouldn't be clear that there wouldn't be cable licensing, potentially, if the Cable Act was, was eliminated. So because of the competitive situation and because of a good legal status that's been around for a while. It's kind of like a long term mortgage. There's no better time now to lock in the terms of a license that apply for the next ten years. And the Comcast credit, you know, they they they they fight to be a successful cable company. They still care about cable. And as a result of that they're willing. And they and they treat towns fairly as as as corporations go. So as a result of that, they're willing to try to reach an agreement that meets, as the Cable Act says, your community cable needs an interest. And so now is really the best time for the town to lock those benefits in. And just give you a sense. And you've done the math. I did it here. The last license had pet capital of 00:34:25,901 S9: And $60 over for the ten years. That's the capital 21,660. Now, if Comcast were to keep its current cable subscriber amount number for 91 and it'll probably go down. But, you know, the world's no certainty of anything with respect to that, because streaming companies charge more and more. And as a result of that people might say, well, cable just makes more sense. And cable also allows you in different ways to stream. So if you take the dollar 25 over ten years, there'd be $73,650. 00:35:03,968 S9: So that's the pet capital. Assuming the 491 subscribers, 73,650 versus 21,660. So even with a reduction of subscribers each year, there's a relatively good chance that that number will be materially more so. And the 5% is, you know, is not going to change. So in my judgment, I've said this for years, but it's more true now than ever. Now is the best time to lock in that a good cable license. And going forward, unless the law changes, as Bill says, to allow, for instance, to charge for streamers who use the public way, then, uh, and there are two things that can happen. One is an access corporation can start viewing itself more as a business. And if those companies want something, uh, if there was no licensing, if they want to have the local programming, they have to pay for it. Or at one point, it might be that the town believes it's in the town's interest to subsidize the access program. Or it may be like happened in many states where they went to statewide licensing, where peg access, or at least public access disappeared. So you're right, there's a the changing world is a challenge and and but but for now, my judgment is that, uh, that this isn't a license that meets the current needs and that it's unlikely that the strategic leverage of the town would get better as time went along for both technical and legal reasons. 00:36:47,267 S5: I have a question for Bill. Maybe it's sort of. So what would you. Because, uh, in Hamilton we're talking about the Verizon license, and they only do five years, right? I'd rather have a ten year license. I don't know, Bill. He's he's he's longer than I have. 00:37:02,067 S9: The difference between the two companies is Verizon has said told Wall Street 70 years ago it's going to be out of cable. They just want a stream and they want every end user to be a wireless user. Well, 5G didn't happen as fast as they thought, which would have allowed that video to stream, uh, in a better fashion. And. Excuse me. And as a result, they, um. They went from a ten year license to five year licenses. And then even the five year license, uh, in the last six years gives them a three year out. But to their credit, in that that five year license with a three year out, they pay five years of capital and, uh, and they'll likely start, as you said, the renewal process again. So that's but they're not they're not a long time cable company. They got into the business because they knew if they didn't have video, they couldn't compete. But once there was an option of video without cable, they they wanted to get to the door and leave. And therefore they protect themselves in a fair way to the town by getting the shorter license and the potential to get out. Comcast, on the other hand, to its credit, sees itself still as a cable company. It has more revenue from internet now than cable, but it sees itself also as a cable company. It does other things too. And as a result of that, uh, it's in their interest to as they see it. And I agree to do a longer license, the longest allowed by law, Massachusetts. Ten years. Uh, there's less transaction costs, less of their employees working on licenses consistently. So, um, I think that does represent the fact that when you have an opportunity for a ten year license, it's in the town's interest to, uh, to do that ten year license. And I don't see any provision here. I'm happy to hear anything that I think would, would, could change. On the upside, I think that, again, giving your team so much credit because it was a team effort on pay capital, uh, administrative assistant administrator and bill that we were able to get a number that was at least materially more on capital than the past licenses. 00:39:25,601 S1: Very good. Thank you very much. Are there any other comments or questions for members of the board for motion? Um, I just want to, um, just for transparency sake, Gary, ask if there's any members of the public who wish to be heard on the renewal of the Comcast license. I don't see people jumping up to talk about that. Um, uh, is there anybody virtually raising their hand? Thank you. Okay. So yes, I would entertain a motion. 00:39:55,267 S6: Move to approve the cable television renewal license of Comcast Cable Communications Management, LLC, effective November 1st, 2025 through October 31st, 2035. Peter Clay seconds. 00:40:08,667 S1: All right. Thank you. We'll do a roll call. Peter. Yes, Gary. Yes. Deirdre. Yes. Karen. 00:40:14,100 S8: Yes. 00:40:14,901 S1: And Ben is. Yes. It's unanimous. 00:40:16,801 S9: And I you know, I just put this in writing, but if you one other vote just for the record. So people in the future know if you could just take a vote recognizing the two side letters so that there's in the minutes, people can look back and say, well, there are those two silent side letter on the senior discount and the peg peg side letter. 00:40:36,167 S1: Peg stands for what. 00:40:37,400 S5: A. 00:40:37,567 S9: Public education government. Uh. 00:40:40,367 S1: Okay. Thank you. Excuse me. So I'll make a motion that when I'm select board, also approve as written the two side letters. One senior citizen discount letter from Comcast to placement of Wenham peg channels on third party peg interactive program guide. Is there a second? Second. 00:41:00,267 S5: Deirdre. 00:41:00,767 S1: Got it. Great. Um. Roll call. Karen. Yes. Deirdre. Yes. Gary. Yes. Peter. Yes. And Ben is. Yes. That's unanimous. Thank you for having us do that. 00:41:10,567 S9: Thank you. Thank you for waiting for me. 00:41:12,267 S1: Yeah. No. 00:41:12,767 S9: Appreciate you. 00:41:13,300 S6: Appreciate it. Thank you. 00:41:15,601 S3: All right. So now we'll take a quick three minute break. 00:41:18,100 S1: Yes. Do we need to make some kind of a public announcement regarding that. 00:41:20,667 S3: We're going to be shutting down the zoom in that bill, where we will folks stream this if they want us. 00:41:28,167 S5: It's still going to be streamed. It's streamed on the app now and on YouTube. It's both working right now. 00:41:32,767 S6: Okay. 00:41:33,367 S1: Okay. So the cam app and YouTube will be streaming the rest of the meeting, but zoom will not be available for the duration of the meeting. And we'll take a brief recess as we set up for the joint meeting with the school Committee. 00:41:46,100 S2: Thank you. Bill. Thank you. Bill.