00:00:40,770	S1:
Welcome, everybody. Glad to see such a big turnout for the meeting. Uh, we certainly hopeful that we would have a lot of folks here to hear about the project that we're considering and to get your feedback. You're going to as we go through the presentation, there's you're going to hear a lot about the work that's been done over the past few years. Uh, a fair amount of analysis and some initial thoughts about design. But I do want to stress that we're very early on in the course of this project, very preliminary conceptual design. And so this is the point in time there are going to be other points in time along the way if we do continue along this path. Uh, for residents to give their input. But this is the first part of that process. And so with that, I'm just going to run through the agenda real quick. Um, introductions. I'm Peter Lombardi, I'm the town administrator. We have some other folks here with us tonight who may be jumping in on the presentation. Uh, Norm Brown from Bayside Engineering. Uh, Bruno Campa from Bayside Engineering. Uh, they actually were the design team that was involved in the, uh, one existing traffic signal that we have in town. Out at 97. Uh, at the Rich tails. So, uh, they were involved start to finish on that design. Bruno, I think, was the lead, uh, on that. And so they're familiar face to us. I did an excellent job, uh, with that project, uh, and have great connections with MassDOT, which is obviously important for this project, given the fact that one A is a is a state road. Uh, also here tonight, Bill Tyack, a DPW director. Uh, Tom Perkins, our police chief, uh, Catherine Harrison, chairman of the board of Selectman John Clemens. The Board of Selectmen and State Representative Brad Hill.

00:02:53,930	S1:
We're going to go through these relatively quickly. We're going to talk about project limits. The history of the project, how we got to this point today. The overall objectives of the project. Uh, then the engineering team is going to go through some of the alternatives that have been considered so far. And there are six of them, uh, going to review, uh, at this point. Again, preliminary, but the consensus design option, uh, from the folks who have been involved, uh, to this point, some considerations for, uh, the, the neighbors, the folks who live, uh, directly abutting the project and certainly residents passing through, um, a kind of high level, uh, run through of how the project would be funded and then how long. All of those steps along the way will take. And we're going to wrap up with a review of some short term improvements, some of which have happened, some of which are planned in the next year or so, so that everybody understands that while we are talking, we'll be talking about, um, some long term improvements. It's going to take some time to get there and we'll go through on some detail what that what that's going to look like, and then obviously open up to any comments and questions at the end. So and I hope everybody can see this. Okay. Um, the project area that we're focused on is just south of uh, Old County Road, uh, and just north of the downtown, uh, along Main Street, uh, route one A and uh, The other streets. Side streets that come into it. Cherry Street monument and Arbor Street. Front court.

00:04:53,769	S1:
Yes.

00:04:55,470	S2:
Would this show better if the lights. Some of the lights were dim?

00:04:58,529	S1:
Yeah. We might have other things.

00:05:00,829	S3:
Like.

00:05:07,470	S3:
That better? Thank you.

00:05:11,230	S1:
So I know on the handout, um, a fair amount of the history was covered because we wanted to give everybody kind of a lay of the land of what's been done to date. So I'm not going to spend too much time on it. Uh, but I will say that a little over two years ago, we reached out to the district four office, which is the district that, uh, uh, encompasses one and a lot of other areas on the North Shore. Um, Asking to re initiate a project that had been talked about about a decade ago that was specifically focused on potentially installing a traffic light at Cherry Street. And it was one of I've been here working for the town for a little over three years. The traffic safety along route one in our downtown was a priority issue. Um, that that a lot of folks were talking about early on, and that hasn't certainly hasn't changed over the past several years. So, um, we reached out to, to MassDOT, uh, a few months later. Uh, they did, uh, traffic counts along the entire corridor at each of the intersections. And, um, the result of that data collection was that all three locations met what's called a warrant volume for that. That would then justify the Installation of traffic signals. That being said, that was really just the first step in the process. The feedback we got from MassDOT was that if we wanted to do any long term improvement to the corridor, that we'd need more analysis done and and some at least initial review of some design alternatives. So we reached out to our regional planning agency and, and then we're connected with the regional transportation planning Agency. Senator Brewster joining us. Thank you, Senator. And just trying to navigate how because it's a state highway. How do partner with MassDOT and their representatives to move forward on a more comprehensive study? So we ended up Applying for technical assistance through the Central Transportation Planning Staff, which was the planning arm of the regional transportation agency. And we were one of two projects that were selected. And that's out of 101 communities in our, uh, in the MPO region. So we were glad to have gotten that support. And really, what that was was about $30,000 of staff. Time to do the analysis that's in the report that is posted online and and available to the public. Um, and to look specifically at the corridor. So we had an initial meeting with them in, I believe, late fall of about a year ago. Uh, they went through their, uh, analyses over the next several months. Uh, they met with us a few times along the way as a kind of check in when they had some, some, some draft materials available. And then at the end of that, they, they completed their study. Um, just earlier this fall and uh, coming out of the completion of that study, we then uh, uh, worked with Bayside Engineering, went in and had a meeting with MassDOT to understand from them really what the next steps would be. And, uh, their feedback to us was, uh, in order to have the support both of, of, uh, MassDOT officials and of the various funding agencies that we needed to show that we had done some significant community outreach, uh, and had the support of the residents to move forward through the next design and construction stages. So that's why we're here tonight. I think the good news is that MassDOT has been fully supportive of the project every step of the way, and that they have agreed to be the project lead when and if we do put an application through and initiate, um, the project request.

00:10:03,169	S1:
So overarching objectives, um, of the project. And I think it's important to say, I know I'm sure a lot of, you know, anecdotally, there's a lot more volume on one A than there was just a couple of years ago. And there are a lot of accidents. The data from the report showed that we had over 90 motor vehicle accidents along that corridor. So from Cherry to Arbor Street From 2011 to 2017. So what that equates to is an average of 4 or 5 significant motor vehicle accidents at each of the intersections each year, and it's pretty evenly spread out across the three intersections. When you look at the data at the same time, the queuing on the side streets, especially during the peak hours, Cherry Street Monument Arbor has increased significantly over over the same period of time. And then anecdotally, um, we've seen an increase in the number of complaints about pedestrian safety issues, crossing crosswalks and the like and over the past several years. So with that in mind, the project objectives are primarily to make it safer for, uh, vehicular traffic, especially during the peak hours. And talking about relieving some of the delays, trying to get on and off the side streets on one day and obviously to reduce accidents. This will be if you look at the preliminary designs, there will be major upgrades to the sidewalks, handicap ramps and so forth to improve access and safety for pedestrians. There will also be dedicated lanes for for bicyclists along the corridor to improve their safety as well. And then obviously with police and fire station right down in the middle of the downtown and the apron for the fire station, um, leading out to to Frank Court and Arbor Street, also looking to increase the safety of those emergency vehicles coming and going.

00:12:29,669	S3:
That I think I'm going to invite Bruno up to go through the alternatives. Sure.

Okay. 00:12:44,100	S4:
Good evening. My name is Bruno Camp, and I'll be the project manager for this, uh, project for Bayside Engineering. And as was mentioned, I was also the designer of the traffic signal installation at 97 in Cherry Street. Um, I'm going to discuss the alternatives and the report done by TPS, uh, which came up with these, uh, alternatives.

Um, 00:13:19,029	S4:
TPS actually looked at all of the existing conditions, uh, the land use around the area, uh, the alignment of route one A as well as the intersections. And they evaluated a number of different things, including accident, their research, the accident, as was pointed out, um, and all of this was to come to the optimum improvements.

Um. 00:13:58,100	S4:
As a result of the analysis, the first thing that was evaluated was the traffic volumes to determine if, in fact, the intersections warranted traffic signals and has been stated. It did all three locations. However, just because the criteria are met doesn't necessarily mean you have to put in a traffic signal. Uh. what needs to happen is that a detailed engineering study needs to be done evaluating what the best optimum operations are before a traffic signal is actually installed.

Uh. 00:14:46,769	S4:
As a result of that evaluation, uh, the CTS study presented these several alternatives as to where the signals would be installed. The first alternative was to signalized Arbor Street intersection.

Uh. 00:15:10,000	S4:
Cherry Street. Monument Street would be updated, uh, as to the alignment and the cross section, but would remain on the stop sign control. That was alternative one. Alternative two would be to synchronize Cherry Street intersection and again, Monument Street and Arbor Street would be updated with the alignment, but again would be on stop sign control. Alternative three was to signalized and coordinate Arbor Street and Monument Street. This will improve safety operations at a large portion of the traffic within the study area. Cherry Street would be updated again with the alignment, but would remain on the stop sign control. Alternative for a slash will be is to signalized and coordinate Arbor Street and Cherry Street. Monument Street would be updated with the design but would be on the stop sign control. Alternative four B is just a variation of alternative foray, in which the left turns from Monument Street would be prohibited.

00:16:28,230	S4:
Alternative five is to signalized and coordinate all three intersections. So alternative six.

00:16:40,470	S5:
Why is everybody laughing? Alternative six.

00:16:47,669	S4:
If you can see it up there, alternative six would be roundabouts. It's you know, it's it's they they have their use at the proper location. But this is not one of the locations. But they look at it and it was evaluated anyway.

00:17:04,799	S1:
Yeah. I think one of the important things about alternative six is that, um.

00:17:09,230	S3:
It's.

00:17:10,430	S1:
Maybe not a functional, but a practical requirement that MassDOT does an analysis, uh, to, to see for, for each of these projects. Now to look at the roundabout as an option. So we wanted to check that box off early so we wouldn't have to have that discussion going forward.

00:17:29,970	S4:
Um, so the six alternatives were evaluated and they were evaluated versus the, uh, objectives. Uh, which is the the leftmost column there, uh, reduce traffic congestion, uh, maintain a desirable traffic movement, uh, improve the town's emergency responses, improve traffic operation, and so on and so forth. And as you can see, each of the columns evaluates each of the alternatives.

00:18:03,329	S4:
And if you look at alternative for A for B, which is the preferred alternative of both MassDOT as well as the town officials, uh, they rate the as as the best. So hence the reason that it was selected.

Um. 00:18:28,970	S4:
And for a for B it's shown both here as well as up here. Um, as you can see, the two, uh, traffic signal symbols at each of the intersection, uh, there are left turn lanes at each of the northbound approaches. Therefore, the left turn traffic is separated from true traffic. And as you know, the left turn traffic is typically what creates problems because it causes backup. Um, the signalized intersections will include pedestrian signals so that you can push a button and get an exclusive pedestrian crossing.

Uh. 00:19:19,269	S4:
Uh, the intersection will also be equipped with emergency vehicle preemption equipment, so that all of the emergency vehicles will get immediate response to the signals, no matter what direction they're approaching from.

Um, 00:19:39,470	S4:
the other big thing with the design would be that you'll have five foot shoulders, which are the standard width. If you want to have a bicycle lane. So that will operate both as a shoulder and a bicycle lane.

00:20:00,829	S4:
And those are some of the highlights of the scheme itself.

00:20:09,829	S4:
The next thing we'll look at is what as you saw each of the sections, each of the segment of road will have a different cross section. Those are represented here as a as the roadway cross section. The first one which says proposed route one a cross section in the vicinity of the project. That would be the cross section at either end of the project, where the roadway will transition from the existing roadway to what the proposed roadway will be. So there will be a one lane in each direction with the five foot shoulder, and it says a five foot, but it will actually be a 5.5ft sidewalk on either side, for a total width of 45ft.

00:21:05,299	S4:
I'm going to jump down to the third one, which is the proposed route one, a cross section where the left turn lanes are. There'll be one lane in each direction In the outermost. In the center will be the left turn lane. If you remember the the the schematic, it'll be either a left turn lane or the painted median. And in addition, again you will have a five foot shoulder or bicycle lane with a 5.5ft sidewalk. That cross section is going to be 53ft.

00:21:47,970	S4:
The center one. The reason I skipped it is because it actually says proposed route one a cross section between Cherry Street. Monument Street. It shows a eight foot stripe median in addition to the two travel lanes, the bicycle lanes and the sidewalk, which totals 50ft. The reason I skipped it is because, although it was presented in the study. Uh, when you actually get into the design of it, it may or may not be feasible to actually design it that way. And the reason I say that, can we go back to the reason I say that is because it's talking about this segment here. However, you see a left turn lane here.

00:22:41,069	S4:
As well as here and at all of the ends. So you can't physically do a good alignment design with an eight foot, uh, stripe medium and have an 11 foot left turn lane. So what I'm saying is the the alignment may or may not work. So that 50 foot section may actually have to be 53 or 54ft, similar to the other cross section. The one thing to keep in mind is through the whole project area. The right of way is 50ft plus or -50ft. As best as we can determine right now. So what does that mean? That means that in some areas

00:23:35,329	S4:
there may be some type of right of way acquisition, whether it's a permanent or whether it's a temporary will depend on where we need it and what the use will be. If it has to be used for the roadway or the sidewalk, then it will most likely be a permanent type taking if it is for a construction just to blend in. And by blending, I mean to make sure that the grading works out. For example, if we change the grading of the roadway. and you have to come into your driveway just to make sure that everything works out. But then we come in, do the work, get out. That's it. So, uh, those are the temporary construction easements. Then there are permanent utility easements.

Yes. 00:24:35,329	S5:
Just a quick.

00:24:36,029	S2:
Question. So what you're saying is the current road and sidewalk width is not adequate to do the project.

00:24:46,369	S4:
In some areas at this time. It does not appear that way. That's correct.

00:24:51,430	S1:
But again, John, that you know, the work that TPS did, which was great, is very there's been no survey work done along with that. So that would all be part of the next steps to determine the exact width of the right of way and move forward along that.

00:25:07,970	S5:
Okay.

00:25:08,269	S2:
Because I'm sure that's what some property owners are going to be concerned.

00:25:11,670	S5:
Right.

00:25:12,670	S4:
Um, yeah. There's been an even the right of way of research that we typically do. We haven't done any really of that. We actually just went on the MassDOT website. We got one which appeared to indicate what what's out there, but we're not sure of that.

00:25:31,269	S5:
Okay.

00:25:31,769	S2:
Thank you.

00:25:32,500	S6:
Have you considered that this entire project lies within the historic district?

00:25:39,269	S4:
Uh, that will be part of the consideration in whatever we do. And there's a whole process that we need to go through in order to follow all the right steps.

00:25:51,230	S6:
It would be considerable.

00:25:54,569	S4:
We have done. We've just put our project out in construction in Lowell on route 38 and right along Kittredge Park, and that's also a historic historic area. So we realized that.

00:26:13,000	S1:
You know you want to touch on Old County Road.

00:26:17,900	S4:
Um, old county road. They're proposing that the. I believe that the one way system is to be changed.

00:26:26,299	S1:
Yeah, it would be. I think back to the way it used to be.

00:26:29,069	S6:
It was from 30. It was changed about 30 years ago.

00:26:32,369	S1:
But yeah, it would mean that, uh, you know, in order in order for it to work with the with the signal, the direction would be reversed, right?

00:26:42,529	S4:
We'd be looking at all of that again, as I said to Peter earlier, although, uh, CTS has done this study, we are going to be required to do the sort of repeat that and look at it and actually do it in more detail. So I'm going to have to get all of the traffic volumes, uh, look at all those again, do the same evaluation that they did CTS did because it's part of our preliminary design. MassDOT has not seen what CTP has done. They're going to want to see what we're going to do. So some things might change. But for the most part, I would say that they'll remain the same.

00:27:26,769	S7:
Could you just explain what is going down in the middle of one? A the yellow lines. Is that just paint?

00:27:32,930	S5:
Yes.

00:27:33,529	S7:
That's all. Yes. It's not concrete.

00:27:35,630	S5:
That's correct.

00:27:36,200	S7:
Brick or anything.

00:27:37,000	S5:
That's right.

Okay. 00:27:38,970	S4:
Again, the alignment has to work out. And without trying to get too complicated. What? The reason I say that I'm not sure what the cross section is because.

00:27:53,930	S4:
Right along here, you see, there's a lane approaching, a lane exiting and a lane coming down. Now over here there's two lanes. So this edge and this edge line up. Now, what the study is saying is this is only eight feet wide, but this is 11ft wide. So now you have that offset. And if you're traveling, you know you have to go straight so you can't be lined up against an oncoming car.

00:28:18,829	S5:
So it doesn't work well.

00:28:22,170	S1:
That's why he's the engineer.

00:28:30,900	S4:
All right. This is something.

00:28:32,099	S5:
Else.

00:28:35,500	S4:
I don't I don't talk money.

00:28:40,470	S1:
Um. All right, so I will talk money. Um, right now and again, this is very preliminary, but ballpark costs that we've gotten from Bayside, from other similar projects that they've worked on, looking at, uh, the, the multiple intersections and the road length and width and so forth. Uh, it's estimated to be, uh, on the order of $3.5 million, uh, start to finish. Um, most importantly, from the town's point of view, uh, we were seeking, uh, as I said, MassDOT has been very supportive of the project, and they have been supportive of, um, trying to fund the project. Uh, and they were trying to identify a particular funding source to get us to 25% design, but it looks like that's unlikely at this stage. So, uh, the latest news from them is that the town's going to be responsible for funding, uh, the 25% design phase, which is about $250,000. Uh, which will occur over the next several years. And and we'll get to that in the next slide. Um, so we are still looking for some other funding sources. Thank you to our state senator.

00:30:01,829	S5:
And.

00:30:02,329	S1:
Representative for attending and for your support.

00:30:04,930	S5:
That's longer than I expected.

00:30:09,269	S1:
Um, but I will say, uh, there there was, uh, language in the economic development bond bill that was approved earlier this year for $500,000 in funding specifically for this project. And thank you to both of you for for getting that language inserted. Unfortunately, that's not an appropriation. Um, so we have to work on that that next step as well. But as I said, the rest of the funding at this stage is expected to be funded through one of a couple other sources. Um, the Transportation Improvement Program or the Tip is federal funding that's passed through the state. There's a relatively long queue for that money. Uh, there's a five year plan. And generally, um, you get at the back of the line. Um, but that being said, year to year, there are some changes. And in the scheme of the total project costs. Across the Commonwealth, this is a relatively low dollar figure, so there's some hope that maybe we could sneak in somewhere along the way sooner than five years. But the other funding source, primary funding source for these kind of projects is the Through the Highway Safety Improvement Program, the CIP, which is controlled directly by MassDOT. So the cue for that funding is a little shorter and there's some more flexibility in accessing those funds. So, uh, the tip is, is, uh, uh, runs through the regional Transportation Planning Organization as a and as I said, that's something we'd have to advocate pretty strongly for, uh, to initially be on the list and then, uh, to, to ensure that that that funding remained in place. Um, either way, uh, we the project is going to have to follow federal and state design guidelines. And as that was referenced in talking about the easement, the other benefit is that if there's any upgrades to utilities that are needed at the time, they would be funded by the project as well. So as I mentioned, best case scenario, right now we're looking at the project being completed in 2023, which is a long ways away. Um, which is why I thought it would be helpful to kind of talk about each step in the way, uh, how long each of those elements we expect to take and then, uh, where that that ends up in terms of actually making any of these, uh, uh, of of the project, uh, you know, constructed on the ground. So first year, 2019, then going by calendar year. Um, we have to sort through funding on our end to fund the 25% design, and then issuing the notice to proceed to the engineering firm. Then there's the survey work that I mentioned earlier, uh, which would occur once the weather breaks, uh, next spring, presumably. Uh, and then there's the work on getting to 25% design. Uh, year two. So 2020. Uh, MassDOT then reviews the 25% design submission. Uh, there is a public hearing, uh, that's required for a project of this sort. And then there's some back and forth in our engineering firm working with MassDOT on the comments that are received through that public hearing process. And then from there, uh, it's another, uh, four months or so to get to the 75% design year three, 2021. MassDOT then reviews the 25% design submission. We move on to 100% design and then they review that again. So that's a whole nother year or so start to finish, hopefully a little quicker. Uh, and then in years four and five so 2022 to 23, we're putting the the project out to bid, awarding the project and then doing the actual construction. And and the contract will likely be for two construction seasons. That being said, a majority of the work would be expected to be done in the first construction season. Besides the installation of signals that would that would probably be done. And some wrap up work, some some site work in the second year. But it wouldn't be as if the entire downtown would be under construction for two full years just to give people a sense of expectations. And I've got the asterisk, which is, um, the timeline assumes, again, really best case scenario, that there are no hiccups along the way in terms of the design work, right of way and so forth, and that we've secured the funding and the timely manner and that we kind of jumped the queue as much as we can.

00:35:32,170	S1:
So in the meantime, we have again been working with MassDOT on some short term improvements to the intersection, recognizing that there are still pedestrian safety issues. There are still, um, you know, pretty high rate of accidents at each of these three intersections along the corridor. So, um, this is a, A summary looking at the same corridor. Most of the striping that is proposed under the the long term improvements is going to be done. Next construction season. What MassDOT is going to do is they're going to do what's called the micro surfacing. It's a it's a very shallow repaving, um, of the existing, uh, road surface, uh, in the entire corridor. And then they're going to stripe, uh, all of, of that corridor, uh, and putting in the, the, uh, left hand turning lanes on Main Street, headed onto Monument and Arbor Street in particular.

00:36:49,900	S1:
So that's, uh, that's the plan for next year. They're also going to when they're doing that re striping. Uh, as you know, uh, we did a little bit of a lane shift in the downtown corridor. Uh, so north of Arbor and Front Court headed to to Hamilton, uh, to allow adequate safe, uh, parking for in the in the business district and so shifted that center line over, uh, the transition, uh, probably looked better on paper than in reality. Um, and so they're going to kind of ease that transition and make it a little smoother than it is now. And, uh, they already have done a couple improvements. Those of you who, uh, push the pedestrian signal at the post office might have noticed that you have a little more time to cross the street now than than you did a few months ago. So they changed the timing. The interval there, I think they increased it by 5 or 6 seconds, I want to say.

Um. 00:37:58,070	S5:
And what's that?

00:37:59,429	S6:
Gives you more time to wait for if the cars that run the red light.

00:38:03,269	S5:
Than.

00:38:04,900	S6:
On a regular basis.

Yeah. 00:38:06,829	S1:
Uh, and they also, uh, you may have noticed recently they installed additional signage, uh, to alert folks to the existing crosswalks that we have in the downtown. Just just to give, you know, people, uh, that extra layer of, of awareness about the fact that that there are crosswalks there. So, uh, small things, uh, but incremental improvements, uh, that we have been able to make, uh, this year and then, uh, next year. Uh, once again, the weather warms up. MassDOT has committed to doing those changes. And with that, I'll open it up to any other comments or questions.

00:38:49,429	S5:
Okay.

00:38:49,730	S8:
All the options include the removal of the current light at the post office?

00:38:54,329	S1:
Yes. Uh, no. Not every option. Um, so only

00:39:07,170	S1:
the options that would add a signal at Arbor Street. If there's a signal at Arbour Street, then that pedestrian signal would go away. But if there was only a signal on Cherry Street, for instance, then that would. That would remain.

00:39:23,070	S5:
Yes, sir. Part of the plan is to discuss sidewalk improvements. And it looks like you go a little bit further past Old County Road. Good old kind of road going south on Main Street, right? Yeah. How far down exactly what? That go.

00:39:35,170	S1:
Uh, that.

00:39:38,530	S4:
That's kind of hard to tell.

00:39:40,329	S5:
Uh, again.

00:39:40,969	S4:
It's a it's a transition. Um, we need to see how much we're widening and depending.

00:39:46,969	S5:
Like.

00:39:47,199	S4:
If you're going from 32ft to, say, 42ft, you have to have a certain taper And then it also depends on the alignment if there's a curve.

00:39:55,800	S5:
Yeah.

00:39:56,199	S4:
Exactly how it best fits in. So. But my guess. Um, it's got to be a few hundred feet anyway.

00:40:05,400	S5:
Yeah. Are you talking.

00:40:06,000	S1:
About the new sidewalk on the other.

00:40:07,670	S5:
Side? Uh, really? On both. I'm specifically looking on the, uh, northbound side of the main street. So I'm at 104, and the sidewalk there is barely the length of my arm. Yeah. And, uh, and we have a retaining wall that it's actually encroaching into, starting to lean into the sidewalk all the way. Uh, we have a plan. That's why I'm asking. Uh, to back it up. But, uh, part of that is that that sidewalk itself is very, very narrow for kids, right? Like when you're coming down my driveway, you can't see them until they're in front of you. Uh, because that sidewalk is in there and there's no shoulder whatsoever there. So I'm just curious how far that would go down, because that would be a pretty dramatic improvement right now.

00:40:49,070	S4:
Couldn't say for sure. That's my best guess. But, uh, we are going to be required to extend the sidewalk up to our project limits.

00:40:56,829	S5:
Yeah.

00:40:57,730	S6:
Um.

00:40:58,900	S8:
Uh, during the construction phase, um, is there the possibility that the town would incur additional expenses for police? Uh, at certain times of the day during that construction process?

00:41:13,670	S1:
There certainly would be police details, and those would be covered by within the project costs under the contract. They would pick up those. Yes.

Yes. 00:41:24,269	S1:
Yes, ma'am.

00:41:25,570	S6:
Have you looked at I mean, because Arbor Street has had a number of configurations, um, in the past, like I said, they pulled up the plans because in the past they have moved the entrance a number of times. And the last iteration is horrible because it's literally right across from front court and no one looks across the street. So I have to turn basically into people's quarter panels before they go. Oh, there's a car there.

00:41:52,530	S1:
I, I.

00:41:53,869	S6:
Yes.

00:41:54,730	S1:
I hear you. I do whatever I want to do.

00:41:57,469	S6:
They have moved that and there's been a number. So while people are designing, it might be useful to look and see what the previous iterations were. Um, because there's been a number of, um, configurations of that entrance and, um.

00:42:12,599	S1:
And I think it would be really a blank slate. This one here. Yeah. Yeah. It's what you're talking.

00:42:17,869	S2:
About.

00:42:18,070	S6:
Right? Is that. Is there it. It used to be, like, wider and.

00:42:21,929	S5:
It's.

00:42:22,130	S6:
Over.

Yeah. 00:42:23,730	S1:
Yeah. Well, no, it's she's talking about how hard it is to pull out a frame or take a left, because the people who are coming on Arbor don't see you.

00:42:34,170	S6:
They don't.

00:42:34,500	S1:
You see you coming, pulling out of front court. So they're looking left and right.

00:42:38,670	S6:
And you finally get halfway across and you start to make a left, and they they pull into you. Um, and yeah, I have today and, you know, someone honked back and It's always creative.

Yes. 00:42:50,099	S4:
As I indicated, the study, although it was more comprehensive, we're going to be required to study it all over again.

Um. 00:43:02,269	S4:
You know, there could be different traffic signal operation where you might have, you know, one approach going, the other one stop, left turn going right.

00:43:10,429	S6:
It's the easiest way to do it is to stop reading post office and go, like, cut it out ahead of time.

00:43:15,630	S1:
And I and I will say, and this is something I've talked to, you know, about, you know, there's, um, obvious concern, right? Like this is trying to address a peak, generally a peak commuting time issue where, you know, this time of day, uh, obviously the traffic pattern changes and we will have full ability to manipulate and control the timing of the signals so that, uh, you know, you're not necessarily sitting on a side street forever at 10:00 at night. Just trying to pull on to one.

00:43:48,170	S6:
No, I mean, I grew up down the street from where the Cherry Street run is. And bless your heart, I love. That is the best light.

00:43:57,469	S5:
Is there on that same topic, would you have the ability to turn the lights to flashing red and flashing yellow for low volume times, when you don't have to sit there and watch the leaves blow across the street?

00:44:13,329	S8:
Essentially, these days.

00:44:14,369	S4:
We can make the signals do anything we want to. Uh, and I indicated.

00:44:18,929	S1:
I've said.

00:44:19,469	S4:
We can write all, all, all of the signalized intersections are going to have these days, mostly, uh, probably video detection, uh, at each of the approaches so that they'll be traffic responsive. Um, we'll also have the ability to evaluate the different traffic volumes during the different parts of the day, so that we can actually time the signals differently so that they can operate differently during different parts of the day. We can make the signals. These will be coordinated, but we can also, uh, um, coordinate them. Uh, have them operate individually during like, say, midnight to 5:00 in the morning. There's probably nobody there. Or we can make them flash so we can do whatever. The only thing to remember is that although you may want to do something, this is a state road. So that's your district will have the final say.

00:45:15,070	S1:
The one thing I will say on that though, because that was part of my concern. If MassDOT is picking up the bill and it's their road, then we could kind of lose a handle on it. But they have said every step of the way that we're going to be at the table in terms of design and that they want to, um, get it right for, for to, to meet the town needs and to listen to any, you know, concerns or.

00:45:37,000	S4:
Compliance generally, whatever the town wants it, as long as it's reasonable, obviously.

00:45:42,070	S2:
Are you aware.

00:45:42,699	S9:
That some years ago there was a suggestion that traffic be one way only on Monument Street. It was voted down. But you know, if you're going to one of your plans, that you're not going to be able to make a left turn coming out of Monument Street. So at which point, that's what most people want to do, at least 50%, because I take that road a lot. It seems to me that's another option, you might think, because I can tell you from the historic district perspective, uh, we're not really interested in signal lights at monument or at Arbor Street. Cherry Street. Okay. The post office that I ran, but no flashing neon lights in the center of our historic town.

00:46:26,329	S6:
Not flashing neon.

00:46:30,929	S5:
Lights.

00:46:33,269	S5:
This is more of a general comment. So I live on front porch. Our frequency of use is probably more than anybody. Right. We only have one way to get out, right? Yeah. Everyone else can turn around and go a different way. Yeah. That's inconvenient. Yeah. Is there a way for Frankau and the other neighborhoods to be part of this discussion? Right. Just besides these meetings, because like our neighbors that have been here longer than me, they have a long observation of what's happened there and what's worked and what's not worked. So is there a way to incorporate and not just front court? But I am definitely thinking, Frank, our observations and concerns with any realignment of anything.

00:47:13,699	S1:
Yeah. So we um, we've been talking about this fairly regularly, Boris Blackman's meetings over the past two years, I would think going forward. Um, I normally provide an update on any number of items, uh, projects that are ongoing that might not necessarily be on the selectman agenda. And I would continue to be updating the board throughout. And when and if it's on an agenda or in one of my updates. I'd be happy to send an email out to folks who sign up for a listserv just to. Just to give project updates. We do have a landing page on the website that has this presentation, the report from TPS, and actually the full presentation from TPS. And if you want to spend some time.

00:48:01,530	S5:
It's.

00:48:02,670	S1:
Pretty interesting. They actually did simulations on each of the different scenarios that they went through. Um, but yeah, we certainly could, uh, would be willing to, to reach out to the residents along the way to keep you updated.

00:48:17,199	S5:
And then I think that'd be great. It's a relatively small number of people, but it's going to be a small number of people that are impacted probably the most. Okay. So that'd be great if you could set something up like that.

00:48:28,869	S8:
Okay.

Okay. 00:48:30,699	S4:
We also a common sheet over there, which is typical of MassDOT, both public hearings as well as public meetings where they can, uh, write whatever comment you have. If you didn't make it here or if you want to put it in writing. This is a common sheet that's two sided. And you said it for Peter.

00:48:55,769	S1:
And I'd suggest, if you haven't already, put your email on on the sign in sheet. And anybody who has their email address will just plan on, you know, when we do get to another point in the process where we want to get an update or need some feedback, then we would reach out to those folks. Can you?

00:49:18,469	S9:
Yes I do. Okay. I'm Edna mullen. I'm over 25 years at the maples, one of the originals, and so far I feel a little left out. So I would like to give some of the statistics of the maples population.

00:49:41,099	S9:
Since the old Country road is located on one A with all, and it wraps around with one entrance and one exit onto one A. There are no other openings on that property that could be used as a temporary or emergency openings. We are kept there when we have to use one a to get in or to get out. The traffic volume at the maples. There are 55 residential units individually owned at the Maples. 76 residents currently live at The Maples. There are 53 automobiles registered here. There's a limit of 2 to 1 unit. Visitors are frequent every day and necessary to accommodate them. They must come in and out on route one. If we have emergency vehicles. Staff, personal visitors, family and friends, health aides, women then, and other transporters. Trash and recycling trucks. Landscapers, maintenance contractor. Trucks. On our own road, we have a ten mile per hour, and that's maintained throughout the problem throughout the property with numerous signs. Give us a limited number of visitor parking spaces. Now, it's safe to say that most of the use of A1 by Naples residents and their visitors is during the daytime hours, with commuting hours avoided whenever possible. Nighttime exits and entrances are minimal currently, and this has been discussed. Our entrance is the not Opening and our exit is the south opening, which is contrary to how it shows on your dedication which you have mentioned.

00:51:49,400	S9:
We can change that into if we got a light in front of it. We can change that. We've done it before. The walk goes. Many of the Naples residents are on the walk in. Most do so within the Naples property, as many feel unsafe attempting to cross over one. A high speed fast to fast and the painted walkway is just ignored. The Naples exit and entrance to A1 bring on constant complaints at our exit. We're unable to safely enter one A and travel south with cars coming from three directions South, North, and Cedar Street, and at our entrance is sometimes unable to enter when coming from the north, as cars traveling north never provide a break. If one does stop and signals permission, the car and back of him will just go around, come up on the bike path and we still come into our property. Some quiet remedies, a traffic light with a pedestrian button to provide safe crossing for a many walkers, and two a traffic light with a yield arrow to provide a designated opportunity for cars to exit from the maples and safely enter the travel lines. Now the residents of the maples of the fall welcome the intent of this project and will work with you in any way we can to make it a success for the town of Witham. There were high expectations that the end result will bring a huge benefit to the safety of residents of the Naples as they walk the drive around town. Now there are other Naples residents here, and they may want to add their own suggestions based upon their own experience. And this has been approved and signed by President George Cantwell.

00:54:06,329	S1:
That's great. That's really helpful feedback. I appreciate.

00:54:08,670	S4:
It.

00:54:09,170	S9:
Watching this whole thing. And I kept saying how it coming and going. We've isolated up here. We have to depend upon that road to serve us well. And it is not doing it. And I don't see the emphasis on all kinds of road, and it should be.

00:54:26,530	S1:
And that's certainly one of the reasons why we're looking at making these improvements.

00:54:30,469	S9:
We recommend a large group of city residents up here. And I might remind you that we're the largest taxpayer in town, so we deserve your consideration.

00:54:40,000	S1:
Absolutely not. Just for that reason.

00:54:43,530	S5:
No pressure.

00:54:49,469	S1:
Wonderful.

00:54:50,000	S4:
Thank you so much.

00:54:53,829	S1:
Any other comments?

00:54:54,929	S5:
Just to build on our point, though, the pedestrian walkway is key. I've got two kids as.

00:54:59,570	S2:
They both.

00:54:59,869	S5:
Go to Buford and went to Buford. And, uh, you can't cross one a the parking, the crosswalks are completely ignored. There's another one that's put up by, uh, uh, Porter.

Yes. 00:55:12,199	S6:
Perkins.

00:55:12,730	S5:
Perkins. Yeah. That was. And I've seen it routinely ignored by several drivers. If there was, you know, some local support, that would be fantastic. Uh, because it is it is significantly ignored. I mean, I've seen people drive by buses, I've seen by people blow through pedestrian or, uh, crosswalks with kids in the crosswalk. So it's I think having a light to support that would certainly be a benefit.

00:55:36,500	S1:
One Porter would see. Obviously there wouldn't be a signal down there, but they get some break in in the volume so that they could cross safely. And I know we have MassDOT did let us put in some additional signage and the, um, the center crosswalk. Yeah, exactly.

00:55:56,769	S5:
As soon as this plowing season, though, that's off the table.

00:55:58,969	S1:
Yeah. But that but they that that was a new addition and we are still working with the schools. My understanding is, is they're looking to hire a third um crossing guard specifically for that intersection.

00:56:11,099	S5:
But I think the lights, the light sport getting traffic actually stopped is going to be a key to to helping that.

00:56:15,800	S6:
So that's where the first light coming in. After someone that I grew up with got hit. Yeah. Leaving school. So, um, for the bike lanes.

00:56:26,599	S4:
Yes.

00:56:27,300	S6:
Um. There's the light. There's the regular travel lane. There's a left turn lane, theoretically, in some places. And then there's the bike lane that theoretically people aren't going to, like, drive on the right hand side and and pick us off.

00:56:44,500	S1:
Not going to be wide enough to because the center that's.

00:56:48,099	S6:
Will it be a separate bike lane or will it be just an extension of the road?

00:56:52,869	S4:
Well, it'll just be a shoulder. It'll be a stripe. Um, you'll have the current and then you'll have a five foot lane with a white edge.

00:57:03,769	S1:
But it will be a consistent five foot lane as opposed to the variable width lane. What? That it is now. Right. Right, exactly.

00:57:11,269	S6:
Um, only because I can. There's a lot of times I can kick the cars as they go past me.

00:57:17,199	S1:
And that's something that I think MassDOT is going to require.

00:57:20,300	S4:
Rather than it is a requirement.

00:57:21,900	S1:
So that's.

00:57:22,670	S6:
That would be nice because.

00:57:23,400	S1:
It's not an.

00:57:23,869	S6:
Option. It's pretty scary at this point.

Yeah. 00:57:26,530	S2:
Yes, ma'am.

00:57:27,130	S10:
Is there going to be more of a penalty for.

00:57:31,130	S6:
Jaywalking.

00:57:31,929	S10:
Because people just cross the street at will? They don't pay any attention to the crosswalks that are there now. They just cross where they park.

00:57:40,769	S1:
I think certainly, um, the intent of this is to create better locations across. Right now, the crosswalks that we have in place are just because that's where people have always crossed. Right. Like the one right in front of town Hall that goes over to the T house? That's an incredibly long run across multiple lanes of traffic. Um, and and is something that would, would never stand up with a traffic engineer and would and would go away that all of the crosswalks that are proposed are at locations that are signalized. And even the crosswalk that exists now, uh, Over on Arbor by the church. It's not at the stop sign. It's offset from the stop sign, which is an incredibly dangerous location for a crosswalk because the people turning onto Arbor from Main Street don't have the expectation that there's going to be a pedestrian, you know, 15, 20ft on the Arbor Street so that that's, again, would would be shifted right to where the stop.

00:58:50,230	S5:
Markers.

00:58:51,030	S10:
When they come and they park and run across the street to business, they don't walk all the way down to the traffic light or the crosswalk.

00:58:59,829	S1:
Well, so there's no parking on that side of Main Street anymore. And there, there. What's that?

00:59:06,769	S10:
Up to a point?

00:59:08,199	S1:
No, there's no there is no parking on that side of Main Street. Not any place, not any as of a year and a half ago. And we did some education and enforcement with that in quotation marks. Um, yeah. Over the first few months, I think it's a lot better than it was. Initially, people had been parking there for years, so it's hard to change that behavior. But there and there still is enforcement of those issues. Not to say that it doesn't ever happen, but I think it's certainly a lot better than it was before we we, um, shifted the center line over and created dedicated parking on the on the business side.

So. 00:59:49,500	S1:
Any other questions or comments? Yes, sir.

00:59:51,400	S4:
Do you have.

00:59:51,730	S5:
Any, um, the timeline for, uh, I guess a more.

00:59:54,730	S11:
Concrete decision on the right of ways. When is that?

00:59:58,000	S1:
So that would be during the 25% design phase, is my understanding.

01:00:02,469	S4:
When we submit 25% design, we will have to submit preliminary what we call preliminary right away plans, because at that point we'll know, uh, essentially the alignment and we'll know the slopes and we'll know what we need. Plus, at that point, we'll have done all of the research to find out exactly where the layout line is and how much we have and what we don't have. So by 25%, we'll have a pretty good idea 20 next year.

01:00:34,130	S5:
Effectively at the beginning.

01:00:36,170	S1:
Correct. Depending on the timing of when it gets done. But yeah, sometime about a year or so from now. Maybe a little more.

01:00:43,730	S5:
Public hearing right after that.

01:00:45,269	S1:
Correct one. Once we get to the 25% and 25% design is a little bit of a misnomer.

01:00:52,170	S4:
It is because that 25% design, we actually have to do at least 50, probably between 50 and 60% of the design because, well, MassDOT calls it 25% because it's all it's supposed to. You have to make sure that you indicate what work you're doing. But in order for us to know that what work we're showing, we have to make sure that it works. So we have to go beyond what they require. Uh, so.

01:01:25,000	S5:
We.

01:01:25,170	S4:
Have to have.

01:01:25,900	S2:
Public hearings.

01:01:26,800	S1:
Correct.

01:01:29,800	S1:
At each of the milestones. But 25% design has a specific public hearing requirement. And again, it is that's there's a reason why 25% takes longer. Um, it's because it's actually more than 25% design. In reality.

01:01:43,969	S4:
Submitting to 25 the public hearing actually doesn't take place until, uh, MassDOT has reviewed the 25%. We get MassDOT comments, and then we have to resolve and make sure that we can address those comments. And then we have to get back to MassDOT. And once we resolve them with MassDOT, then it takes place. So it could end up being a good six months or more, depending on how quickly MassDOT reviews the 25% design.

01:02:17,570	S5:
So in alternate four, be on Monument Street. Can you? The idea of not allowing a left hand turn out of Monument Street onto one way. Can you one explain the value of that? How that works in the idea? And two, maybe more importantly, how would you enforce that?

01:02:40,170	S5:
I would be out of here. Of course.

01:02:44,070	S4:
Reserve one. Um, the idea behind it. Um, I didn't work on the study. Uh, we are the engineering that, uh, hoped to complete the design, and I have not seen the complete traffic data or analysis yet. Uh, as I told Peter, and as I mentioned earlier, uh, we're going to have to look at all of that. But my assumption is that the left turn was taken out because it's probably a fairly heavy left turn creates a lot of conflicts and it was to make things easier.

01:03:23,670	S1:
I think if I could step in because we were involved in that discussion. I think part of the idea is if you install a signal at Cherry Street, the concern was, is that right now you kind of pick your poison, you either go cherry your monument, and if you know that there's a signal at cherry, you might go to monument to try to jump the line. And so if that if the traffic shifted heavily over from cherry to monument, then we might consider prohibiting Left-Hand turns off of monument. But that that was something that was something that we could respond with. If the if that turned out to be an issue more than an initial.

01:04:03,730	S5:
Design prohibited a sign.

01:04:06,429	S1:
Yeah, it would be. It would be enforcement that that would, you know, it would be.

Yeah. 01:04:13,599	S4:
It would be the signage. The other thing is obviously to emphasize it. You put traffic signal lenses with the right turn on that road.

01:04:25,369	S5:
Yes, sir. But to.

01:04:26,429	S1:
Be.

01:04:26,769	S5:
Clear, yeah.

01:04:28,170	S1:
The consensus.

01:04:29,170	S5:
Alternative is.

01:04:30,170	S1:
For a correct nods.

01:04:32,800	S5:
For being correct.

Okay. 01:04:36,030	S4:
Yes, sir.

01:04:36,500	S10:
I live off.

01:04:37,199	S9:
Cherry.

01:04:37,570	S6:
So you pick.

01:04:38,429	S9:
Your poison.

01:04:38,969	S10:
You little one. You cannot get out of money unless you are in on the double line.

01:04:45,170	S9:
Right.

01:04:45,500	S6:
Before you.

01:04:45,969	S10:
Go.

01:04:46,170	S1:
Left. Yeah. So the other part of the redesign that we should have touched on is that the stop bar on monument is going to be pulled more or much closer, actually, to the center line of Main Street right now. You're right. You have to create two car lengths.

01:05:00,829	S6:
To.

01:05:01,000	S1:
Avoid that. Right. Exactly. So that that's, that's actually going to be redesigned as part of this, is that your that stop part is going to be much a shorter run across the intersection.

01:05:11,670	S9:
That point about.

01:05:12,670	S6:
Restricting the left hand lane. I think that is.

01:05:15,030	S9:
Actually crucial.

01:05:16,030	S6:
Because if you're trying to avoid that, you'll never get out anyway. And that's where the accidents occur. More so you will cherry the line is going to the light will allow you.

01:05:25,829	S9:
To go.

01:05:26,530	S6:
And flow and get out and.

01:05:28,829	S9:
Make it.

01:05:30,699	S6:
Safer.

01:05:31,170	S1:
The idea also, though, with having the two synchronized signals, is that there will be a break in the traffic flow if you do want to pull out a monument. So it is going to be safer to pull out of monument.

01:05:46,730	S5:
Get a short term solution to that was seem to be painting lots. What's the timeline for that.

01:05:50,929	S1:
Next.

01:05:51,230	S5:
Summer? Oh, it is not great.

01:05:53,570	S1:
That's what they've told us.

01:05:54,699	S5:
Yeah, it seems like a lot.

01:05:56,130	S1:
And I said it in a room full of people and on TV, so I'm going to hold them to it.

01:06:00,630	S6:
So the even the temporary of the new lines, does that help bring up the, the stop lines for monument front court like people drive northbound on one A into the fire parking lot and around and cut people off trying to exit from the museum's town hall. Like if the stop line was brought in the stop, the crosswalk was moved over. I know that's inhibiting in front of the fire department, so I'm not sure how that works because that's the safety. But anyway, that whole intersection, they're just people going north on super dangerous, like they've been mugged just because they literally don't see it any lanes. They're like driving up because they're because of the fire department is like, what do you call the apron?

01:06:48,429	S1:
Yeah.

01:06:48,630	S6:
The apron that goes in front, like, that's a hot mess over there. Yes. That's right. It's not all right. I guess this one a extension, but um, is the temporary line is going to help that because I think even that is a little step would make a huge improvement. Waiting five more years for something to happen.

01:07:08,429	S5:
Sure.

01:07:09,199	S1:
Uh, and again, uh, The graphics that you see are, you know, conceptual with MassDOT. So when we do get to the stage where we're talking about them actually doing the striping, we're going to have a meeting with them and make sure that some of those concerns are addressed. I think in particular doesn't necessarily show, um, bringing that stuff bar out on monument. I think that's going to be a key thing that if we can do that for the next couple of years, that's going to be a pretty significant safety improvement.

01:07:42,099	S9:
The other issue is.

01:07:43,670	S2:
Which is I love the.

01:07:44,369	S6:
Fire.

01:07:44,570	S9:
Department, is that they.

01:07:46,969	S6:
Park all the way to the end of the road onto.

01:07:50,900	S9:
The end of Front Court, so.

01:07:52,429	S6:
You have to stick your nose out to actually.

01:07:57,630	S9:
See.

01:07:59,699	S6:
It.

01:08:00,230	S1:
And you're talking about the call firefighters when when they're in for a call.

01:08:03,400	S6:
Yeah. Or if they're having a meeting if the trucks.

01:08:05,670	S9:
Come out way out in the apron.

01:08:07,170	S1:
No, no, no, she's talking about.

01:08:08,800	S9:
Ten.

01:08:09,030	S1:
Signs you're talking about right here.

01:08:10,429	S9:
Right there.

01:08:10,969	S1:
Right. Yeah. you're talking.

01:08:11,730	S5:
About.

01:08:11,929	S9:
Right there. Wait till the end. Yeah. And it's it's.

01:08:14,670	S1:
That's something I can have a conversation with the fire chief about.

01:08:17,470	S9:
It's really hard to see. Especially once the snow cut. And, you know, there's a truck and you're creeping out, and you don't want to get someone who's coming around. The people making a left turn into Arbor.

01:08:27,369	S5:
Yep.

01:08:28,329	S9:
Um, we have had a number of neighbors who've gotten.

01:08:31,529	S1:
That's a conversation we can have internally.

01:08:33,369	S5:
Certainly.

01:08:33,699	S9:
That would be great.

01:08:34,369	S5:
Yep.

01:08:36,899	S5:
One quick move for engineering. Do you see anything in the next 4 or 5 years? Technology wise, as far as the crosswalks, you know, at the airports, you now have the lighted crosswalks or the series of lights going on across the road. Is that something that would be included 4 or 5 years down the line?

01:09:02,369	S4:
I guess it's possible. Um, again, this is, uh, MassDOT roadway. Um, and they're looking at those type of innovations, I guess, uh, all the time, um, you know, uh, including, uh, different colored, uh, pavements and crosswalks and things like that. So I guess it's possible, but I don't believe that any of that is really on their approved list right now.

01:09:33,569	S1:
Yeah. I think an example of something that MassDOT is doing now that they didn't just a year or two ago, um, on some of these kind of projects is, um, for the thermoplastic striping, which is significant. And, you know, it's supposed to be more durable. Um, they, they actually inlay the thermoplastic. Now they do a slight recess before they paint so that the thermoplastic holds up with the plows and everything else in the winter. So something like that might happen. But it's hard to say between, you know, from, from now to when we finish the design what what their standards are going to be.

01:10:13,029	S5:
Jeremy Jeremy Coffey lived down up off the Cherry Street. I'm on the zoning board, so I come here a lot and I coach the high school. So I go to the high school quite a bit. So I think I'm a veteran of those intersections. I'm probably as good as most at traversing them, but it is hair raising out there that you only have 90 accidents in the test period is dumb luck. Um, it's it's some of the stuff you see out there. It's it raises the hair on the back of your neck. Um, I'm thankful for Senator Tarr and the Representative Hill being here. Um, it's an important project. I hope you guys are able to push it forward. And I hope that Senator and Representative Hill stay involved. As far as you know, if there's a way to fund the first 25% that we haven't found yet or just pushing it over the top with Dot. Um, we need your help. We'd love for you guys to stay involved. So thanks for being here. You're welcome. Great. I have a quick question, and it's more of something that we've experienced in other communities. And I think the question came up twice, but I'm not sure we got the exact answer to it. For people who want to be part of designing this. So neighbors being involved in the designing and things of that sort. I heard you say you could fill out a piece of paper and send it to you, but will there be opportunities where on a night time, the neighbors could come and share with you what they would like to see? So, for example, Senator Tara and I have received numerous phone calls from one in residence about expanding the sidewalk as far up as the farm. Now, from what I think I heard, it's not going that far out. But I think you've heard neighbors who would like to have that discussion as long as we're having this discussion. So will there be opportunities for people to come to a meeting and share their views.

01:12:06,470	S1:
Yeah, absolutely. I don't know exactly when or how, but yes, we will make sure, um, you know, that we reach out and that we're not kind of proceeding along in a bubble and not getting feedback from from all.

01:12:21,270	S5:
Of the things we run into as we get to the 75%. And then the people show up and no one likes it, and we have to go back and do it all over again at a cost and another six months to a year. So if we're involved in the process as we're moving forward, we will not have to deal with that. I think, um, we had a very good experience with your route 97 project with that light and I, I assume we're going to have a similar one, um, with our discussions. But this is a lot bigger than that, and it's going to be a lot more planning and designing than that.

01:12:56,869	S1:
But definitely the earlier and more often the feedback we get from, from, especially the folks who are butters, the better. So. So that we work through those issues as opposed to getting too far down the line.

01:13:12,600	S5:
Peter, just to clarify.

01:13:14,500	S4:
I maybe I missed it. What fiscal year were the 250,000.

01:13:19,430	S5:
Town sheriff.

01:13:20,869	S4:
Be?

01:13:21,970	S1:
So it's going to be spread out over at least two and possibly three fiscal years. We do have chapter 90 funds. The town receives just over $150,000 a year from the state, based on a formula in chapter 90 funding. Um, we do have a we can roll over the balance year to year. That's to handle all roadway construction and reconstruction across the town, which is woefully short as as the senator and representative know. Um, but it is something. And so we do have some funds that we could use to to, uh, Hopefully get going sooner than later on that, but it would be over FY 1920 and maybe into 21, but probably FY 19 and 20 at least.

01:14:15,270	S4:
So that would be about with the chapter 90 funds, about 80,000 bucks a year. Is that just making that number up?

01:14:23,829	S1:
Yeah. So chapter 90 funds are actually not released on a the same fiscal year calendar. Those are normally released in the springtime March ish. Plus or minus. Excuse me. Um, and we do have a remaining balance. Uh, from from the previous year. Uh, I think just under $100,000. But then what that means if we use those funds, is there's no money to do any other roadwork across the town unless it comes on the tax rate. Um, which obviously has its own challenges. And we do have several, um, you know, obviously Projects that are that are in the queue. That we had planned over the next couple of years that would then have to be put on hold if we just used our chapter 90 funds.

01:15:08,729	S4:
So we'll have to do some planning for 19 and 20. In terms of the budget to put those dollars.

01:15:15,470	S5:
In.

01:15:15,569	S1:
There, we're talking about it on Saturday morning.

01:15:22,270	S12:
My question is about sidewalks. Does the Dot require sidewalks on both sides of the streets that are involved with this? Because I notice you're planned for 4AI guess that's the preferred one. Shows new sidewalks on the south side of Monument and Cherry.

01:15:40,000	S4:
Yes, I.

01:15:40,670	S12:
Believe where they don't exist.

01:15:41,899	S4:
Today. That's correct. I believe it's on both sides.

Okay. 01:15:45,970	S1:
And there's also a new sidewalk right across the street here by the Civil War monument that would be added.

01:15:53,899	S12:
In front of the Civil War.

01:15:54,930	S4:
Monument.

01:15:55,369	S9:
Correct.

01:15:57,369	S1:
So there would be sidewalk enhancements for existing to meet the minimum required widths, and there would be new sidewalks installed in a couple of different locations. Not sure quite how far they're going to go down, but that would be part of the planning project.

01:16:12,199	S13:
That's right. Yeah. Were there.

01:16:15,100	S1:
Any other questions comments.

01:16:17,229	S13:
On the sidewalks going on?

01:16:21,000	S1:
Okay, great. Well thanks everybody for coming. Here's my contact information. As I said, we do have, uh, a standalone, uh, page on the website that has a fair amount of information. Um, if you haven't already signed up, please make sure you get your name down here. If you want to be involved in any emails that go out, put your email down. Uh, and we will be back in touch in the next several months.

01:16:46,869	S13:
Thank you. Peter.